02-06-2017, 09:59 PM
Ok.
I am not a good college student. I haven't done well so far, A-B's. I struggle.
So, I've done brick and mortar and straighterline for college. On the vocational side, I do well. I've taken tons of training, on and off line, and from a variety of sources. I am very good at testing.
So, I just jumped into the E4C ENG205 course. Here are my first blush, subject-to-revision thoughts. I am not with them, nor getting anything for this review. I rely strongly on word of mouth here, and so here is mine, .<----- that's the grain of salt to compare it to.
I don't like it.
lol
ok, a little more.
The book isn't a book or pdf, it is sort of interactive. I like that it breaks at each chapter. You don't overrun the ends searching manually like in a pdf. The search feature is just about useless. Constant '0 instances of xxxx'. It highlights each word you're looking for, so if you are loading key phrases to catch them in the text, there are 300 'the' lit up, or a zillion 'of' lit up.
In contrast, let's say I have a pdf book. A question is, 'How does one refer to androgyny as a life choice?' I'd put in 'androgyny as' in the search box, and at other places, I'd find that sentence. Like, the book would say 'Androgyny as a life choice would be referred to as something'.
None of the quiz questions work like that. They all require you to infer, rather than simply being lifted from the text. That's buggy to me, because I work by remembering key phrases and how they set up stuff. If I can't find it straight up by a search, I can remember my way back to the area in the text, then run it to ground. There are many questions that have no words that match the text at all.
On the plus side, you get three bites at each apple, and they are untimed. I appreciate that.
In ENC205, there are 8 quizzes and a final. In ENC205, there is a writing assignment per each of the 8 modules. Basically you appear to be bolting together a research paper. (I am tackling the quizzes first, then going back with what I've learned and applying it to building the paper.) You must take the quizzes in module order, success at the current quiz 'unlocks' the next one.
Each quiz so far is 30 questions, and is built on the same platform as SL. Each retake jumbles the questions so you cannot simply rememberize the letters and go back in. They are a mix of 'choose one' types.
I have noticed that they say they pay for your proctorU final, so that is a plus where SL makes you pay for your own PU account.
There is a wealth of additional material in each module, but I have been using the etext solely. Hm. (I'm on break between quizzes. I may check to see if that's what the disconnect is).
The etext is ok. It is following a notional person as they conduct a research project. It is very, very term heavy. But the chapters are smaller than the SL texts, so they are not as taxing as I remember SL's being.
Ok, well, that's the report from the outpost. Nose back to grindstone. I may feel better about it when I am done but for now I feel banghead
I just reread this. Here's a salient point: If you understand the language of academia, and can knock out a good research paper, this would be a ....uh....a.... sigh. You'd like it, and it would be fast credit. I can't put it against a TECEP or DSST, because I don't know if they have writing involved. If they don't, I'd really go test out than this *if you know your stuff*.
For me, it just reinforces that I'm glad I didn't try the test out path for this.
Allright, it's not gonna get done on its own. Well, unless Alexa or Siri has features I am unaware of... lol
I am not a good college student. I haven't done well so far, A-B's. I struggle.
So, I've done brick and mortar and straighterline for college. On the vocational side, I do well. I've taken tons of training, on and off line, and from a variety of sources. I am very good at testing.
So, I just jumped into the E4C ENG205 course. Here are my first blush, subject-to-revision thoughts. I am not with them, nor getting anything for this review. I rely strongly on word of mouth here, and so here is mine, .<----- that's the grain of salt to compare it to.
I don't like it.
lol
ok, a little more.
The book isn't a book or pdf, it is sort of interactive. I like that it breaks at each chapter. You don't overrun the ends searching manually like in a pdf. The search feature is just about useless. Constant '0 instances of xxxx'. It highlights each word you're looking for, so if you are loading key phrases to catch them in the text, there are 300 'the' lit up, or a zillion 'of' lit up.
In contrast, let's say I have a pdf book. A question is, 'How does one refer to androgyny as a life choice?' I'd put in 'androgyny as' in the search box, and at other places, I'd find that sentence. Like, the book would say 'Androgyny as a life choice would be referred to as something'.
None of the quiz questions work like that. They all require you to infer, rather than simply being lifted from the text. That's buggy to me, because I work by remembering key phrases and how they set up stuff. If I can't find it straight up by a search, I can remember my way back to the area in the text, then run it to ground. There are many questions that have no words that match the text at all.
On the plus side, you get three bites at each apple, and they are untimed. I appreciate that.
In ENC205, there are 8 quizzes and a final. In ENC205, there is a writing assignment per each of the 8 modules. Basically you appear to be bolting together a research paper. (I am tackling the quizzes first, then going back with what I've learned and applying it to building the paper.) You must take the quizzes in module order, success at the current quiz 'unlocks' the next one.
Each quiz so far is 30 questions, and is built on the same platform as SL. Each retake jumbles the questions so you cannot simply rememberize the letters and go back in. They are a mix of 'choose one' types.
I have noticed that they say they pay for your proctorU final, so that is a plus where SL makes you pay for your own PU account.
There is a wealth of additional material in each module, but I have been using the etext solely. Hm. (I'm on break between quizzes. I may check to see if that's what the disconnect is).
The etext is ok. It is following a notional person as they conduct a research project. It is very, very term heavy. But the chapters are smaller than the SL texts, so they are not as taxing as I remember SL's being.
Ok, well, that's the report from the outpost. Nose back to grindstone. I may feel better about it when I am done but for now I feel banghead
I just reread this. Here's a salient point: If you understand the language of academia, and can knock out a good research paper, this would be a ....uh....a.... sigh. You'd like it, and it would be fast credit. I can't put it against a TECEP or DSST, because I don't know if they have writing involved. If they don't, I'd really go test out than this *if you know your stuff*.
For me, it just reinforces that I'm glad I didn't try the test out path for this.
Allright, it's not gonna get done on its own. Well, unless Alexa or Siri has features I am unaware of... lol
Bachelor of Arts in Liberal Studies Thomas Edison State University 2018
Cert in Emergency Management - Three Rivers CC 2017
Cert in Basic Police Ed - Walters State CC 1996
Current Goal: new job
Working on: securing funding I don't have to pay back for a Masters.
Up Next: Toying with Masters Programs
Finished: First Degree
Older Experience with: PLA / Portfolios, RPNow, Proctor U, ACE, NCCRS, DAVAR Academy (formerly Tor), Straighterline, TESU, Ed4Credit, Study.com, The Institutes, Kaplan, ALEKS, FEMA IS, NFA IS, brick & mortar community colleges, LOTS of vocational schools...
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