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UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - sanantone - 05-11-2019
A Utah school bus driver closed the door on a student's backpack and drove off dragging him 150 ft. before stopping. Other than some pinch marks from the backpack, the teenager was uninjured. The driver was forced to retire after the incident. The mother of the student claims that the driver knew what he was doing because video showed him repeatedly looking over, and the students were animated. The attorney for the family said that the driver has a history of targeting biracial students. When the driver, John Naisbitt, was asked by a reporter if he's racist, he responded, "No, not at all. Look at my dog. He's black as can be."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/utah-mom-files-civil-rights-suit-against-bus-driver-who-n1003986
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - cookderosa - 05-12-2019
I watched the video twice and can't see the boy in the rear mirror, side mirror or window. I also don't see any of the kids standing on the stairs having a reaction of any kind- wouldn't they all be yelling to the driver if the boy was caught in the door? It would be right in front of their eyes.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - davewill - 05-12-2019
The girl next to the door turns to the driver and sends to be fairly animated about it.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - sanantone - 05-12-2019
(05-12-2019, 09:40 AM)cookderosa Wrote: I watched the video twice and can't see the boy in the rear mirror, side mirror or window. I also don't see any of the kids standing on the stairs having a reaction of any kind- wouldn't they all be yelling to the driver if the boy was caught in the door? It would be right in front of their eyes.
I see the boy's head through the door multiple times while the bus is moving. He has cornrows (braids). The girl standing in front of the door does look animated. You can see the boy turn around after he's released the second time the bus stops. I don't know why the bus driver let students stand while the bus was moving.
I can clearly see the boy in the second mirror from the top. You can also see him move in it the second time the bus stops.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - davewill - 05-12-2019
It looks to me like he stopped and started letting students off, then decided to pull farther forward. He pauses the offload by just slamming the door and catches the kid's backpack.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - katelynn - 05-12-2019
It's such a shame that there are not enough hours in the day to drive one's own kids to school and pick them up afterward. Kids must go to school and adults must go to work, but having no other option than to put your child's life in the hands of strangers is scary. I don't mean with just the bus drivers, but all the staff and even the students. I honestly don't know how I'd manage my anxiety if I had a child in the school system, especially in these times.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - sanantone - 05-12-2019
I'm just glad he was forced to retire. Even if this was an accident (I doubt that it was), bus drivers are trained to make sure they haven't caught anyone in the doors. As a city bus driver, I had to watch front and back doors. If he couldn't see the kid in his mirror, then that's scary.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - cookderosa - 05-13-2019
(05-12-2019, 08:49 PM)katelynn Wrote: It's such a shame that there are not enough hours in the day to drive one's own kids to school and pick them up afterward. Kids must go to school and adults must go to work, but having no other option than to put your child's life in the hands of strangers is scary. I don't mean with just the bus drivers, but all the staff and even the students. I honestly don't know how I'd manage my anxiety if I had a child in the school system, especially in these times.
I would disagree with both of your musts. But I'm pretty extreme, we raised our 4 kids without ever leaving them in the care of a stranger.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - dfrecore - 05-13-2019
(05-12-2019, 08:49 PM)katelynn Wrote: It's such a shame that there are not enough hours in the day to drive one's own kids to school and pick them up afterward. Kids must go to school and adults must go to work, but having no other option than to put your child's life in the hands of strangers is scary. I don't mean with just the bus drivers, but all the staff and even the students. I honestly don't know how I'd manage my anxiety if I had a child in the school system, especially in these times.
Neither of your "musts" is true. They weren't true for my family (I'm a SAHM, and we homeschooled for many years).
And you probably haven't been around a school much, because if you were, you'd see the long lines of parents dropping off or picking up their kids. Where I live, there are no buses any more (except for field trips or high school sports). I also see lots of parents walking their kids to/from school, especially the younger kids.
My children now go to high school, but one drives, the other has a job - at some point, you can't control every aspect of your child's life. They do grow up, and they do need freedom. If you can't bear the thought that your kids are out in the world, among strangers, then you probably shouldn't have them.
RE: UT School Bus Driver Dragged 13-year-old 150 Feet - katelynn - 05-13-2019
(05-13-2019, 09:19 AM)dfrecore Wrote:(05-12-2019, 08:49 PM)katelynn Wrote: It's such a shame that there are not enough hours in the day to drive one's own kids to school and pick them up afterward. Kids must go to school and adults must go to work, but having no other option than to put your child's life in the hands of strangers is scary. I don't mean with just the bus drivers, but all the staff and even the students. I honestly don't know how I'd manage my anxiety if I had a child in the school system, especially in these times.
Neither of your "musts" is true. They weren't true for my family (I'm a SAHM, and we homeschooled for many years).
And you probably haven't been around a school much, because if you were, you'd see the long lines of parents dropping off or picking up their kids. Where I live, there are no buses any more (except for field trips or high school sports). I also see lots of parents walking their kids to/from school, especially the younger kids.
My children now go to high school, but one drives, the other has a job - at some point, you can't control every aspect of your child's life. They do grow up, and they do need freedom. If you can't bear the thought that your kids are out in the world, among strangers, then you probably shouldn't have them.
Homeschooling isn't an option for a lot of parents because not every parent has the ability to work from home (or not work at all). The majority must have schooling and the majority must work, which sadly doesn't always leave room for parents to be involved until after school hours. I was homeschooled, but it was also a different time and many of the kids I came up with ended up having to be put into public school. I've known many parents and single women that would love to be able to provide for their children what you did, but I think you know that not every family is fortunate enough to be able to. For many families I've known, even after school let out there would be sitters involved until the parent was finally free. It could be that we socialize with a different kind of community and maybe you haven't witnessed that kind of thing, just as I haven't been around many schools. I get what you're trying to say, but I'm only trying to sympathize with the families that aren't as blessed as you and simply cannot be there. I'm very glad your kids had the experience they did and I wish more kids had something similar. I was never implying that parents could do more, I was wishing that more parents had better opportunities to be there as much as a lot of them wish they could be.
Also, please don't concern yourself with my family-planning. Concerning my anxiety, I was speaking specifically about schools and you took it upon yourself to say that I somehow couldn't imagine my future children being a part of normal society. Seeing as you temporarily kept your kids out of school, I'm not sure why you think it'd be controlling/paranoid for me to want to make the same decision with my future children. I think you misunderstood entirely what I was saying (which is fine in itself) but keep in mind that some things aren't appropriate or necessary to say. I will be having several children.