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[ncpenn]

In my opinion, the Bible is far from clear on which directives are absolute and which directions relative. Take for instance the lying. The verse you quote in Revelations says

8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Notice how it says "all liars." Also, Jesus told those listening to let their yes be yes and their no be no in the context of not taking oaths (Math 5:37).

I understand what you are saying. Please understand I do not mean this as a put-down at all, but unfortunately, I think the answer is found in Isaiah 6:9. "And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not."

I was not trying to invalidate Christianity. Honestly, after a decades of following Christianity I have come to the point where I don't claim to know the truth.

I can respect that (I feel saddened for you, but I do respect your position).

Ironically, you argue logic using definition.

No. I'm not trying to validate logic. I'm putting it out there as an axiom. What I'm saying is, if it is true (and absolutes are an integral, necessary part of formal logic), and if you hold any one thing (or more than one) to be true consistently (like randomly killing your friend), then logic says there is a universal, absolute source.

Of course, if logic isn't true, then . . .