ENEB Master Thread

[Merlin]

... it's interesting how when Sophia.org gets attention by giving away thousands and thousands of courses for free no one bats an eye, but when ENEB enters a new market with aggressive pricing through a marketing channel its competitors aren't using, somehow that's supposed to be a bad thing.

I've seen similar negative reactions to nationally accredited schools with the same features as other schools that people have no problem with. A few years ago, one person here said that anyone who chooses a nationally accredited school has "a low IQ" and a number of other nonsensical conclusions. But in that person's signature line there was a list of a ton of courses taken from Straighterline, an unaccredited school. Yeah, SL's courses may be ACE evaluated but the school is still unaccredited, while many of Penn Foster's courses are ACE evaluated as well and it happens to be a nationally accredited school. I guess ACE must have a collective "low IQ" as well, smh...

I must have missed those posts, but yeah ACE credits create a weird grey area. NA credits can be troublesome too, but for different reasons. Picking either of these options has nothing to do with poor IQ though. Those kinds of comments sound more like the kinds of things people say on the other forum. That is part of the reason I'm not active over there in fact.

The interesting thing to me is that ACE providers are not themselves accredited colleges, but they offer courses that transfer to and are accepted by accredited colleges towards their own degrees. These credits are fine for most people who just need a checkbox degree, but it becomes a larger issue when people with ACE credits on their transcript later wish to pursue additional degrees. Particularly when they seek degrees at colleges that do not accept ACE credits. While the degrees are valid, ACE courses generally do not meet academic entry requirements and can sometimes hurt GPA requirements. This is why it is sometimes better to take real courses rather than go with the cheaper ACE credit options.

Overall, NA credits are probably better than ACE credits since they are at least accredited somewhere and therefore should have higher transferability. IMO it is just a bit of academic snobbery that keeps NA and RA credits from being interchangeable these days. I think it is quite odd that RA colleges will accept ACE courses to meet degree requirements while they will not accept NA courses to do the same. I imagine that barrier will eventually drop though... I know the USDOE is pushing for this as well.

As you know, people can have very strange (and very wrong/confused/absolutely ridiculous) takes on things in this realm (and I say that in general and not directed at any specific person in this thread).

Yep. You have to expect that from a public forum. We're lucky to have a core group of people who have accumulated a ton of knowledge and are nice enough to share it, but that doesn't mean it is always accurate or should be treated as gospel. Especially considering policies and equivalencies change, etc. Plus a lot of time people are expressing their opinion or just making an educated guess.

We also have a lot of new people who are also trying to help but may not always see the full picture or know all the nuances.

In any case, it is always best to consider other input but do your own research and make your own opinions before acting on anything.

With this ENEB situation, I don't think optimists or pessimists should be taking any victory laps just yet.

I agree. While I'm pessimistic about the value of this degree beyond personal edification and to pad a resume with a mostly useless credential, I'm happy to be proven wrong if someone manages to get a WES evaluation proves that the degree has high transferability to the US.