ENEB Master Thread

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The attempt to over-explain a credential in a well-meaning act is going to backfire. No need to over-complicate this, it won't help you.

Adding to this, calling it a Titulo Propio isn't really a thing for these degrees anyway. The transcripts, diplomas, and UI's verification system say no such thing as "Titulo Propio," and even if they did that just means "University Degree."

The document says "Master of [Area of Study]" and is issued by a university, so writing it as "University Master of Business Administration from Universidad Isabel I" is redundant and confusing.

Not sure I follow this logic, but I've been away from this for so long that maybe I'm not up to speed, so correct me if i'm wrong.

In the case of EdX/GT, the lecture videos used to be hosted on the EdX platform, but all work and interaction was completed on GT's platform, with GT professors, following GT curriculum. EdX is not creating content nor issuing any degrees or credentials.  With ENEB, everything is done through ENEB directly with no interaction with Isabel I faculty or course content. Isabel I is just vouching for the degree that ENEB grants, no?

Or is Isabel I granting their own degree and transcripts on top ENEB? If so, the Isabel I transcripts are probably much more likely to get a more favorable review by the foreign degree evaluators, why are we even bothering having ENEB evaluated? Just keep it under Isabel I, and list it as Isabel I on a resume as stated above.

But if Isabel I is only acting as a partner that is endorsing the ENEB degree, it seems misleading to say Isabel I is the university. And with all the insistence that ENEB is legit, it seems odd to try to conceal the source.

But if Isabel I is actually granting their own degree/transcripts for this program, I am a lot more interested and will have to start reading through all this again

I think it's disingenuous to say that there is no course content from Isabel. At the very least, we know from the articulation agreement between ENEB and UI1 (a document that can be found on the ENEB website) that Isabel approved the course content and the degree program. They also issue their own full degree that can be verified on their website in addition to ENEB's degree. They do not, however, issue transcripts

That said, it's more like Coursera than EdX. With Coursera specializations and degrees, you do the work on Coursera's platform with a combination of pre-recorded lectures approved or created by the school and some interaction with professors from the university. ENEB skews a little farther away from having direct interaction with UI1 professors, but still involves curriculum that is reviewed and approved by UI1. It also seems likely that Isabel had some direct say in the development of this curriculum since it appears in a remarkably similar, or even identical, fashion in several of UI1's other partner institutions (others like ENEB).

Plus, we already see this happening with the many programs people on this forum have already completed. If you were an OG at TESU and only did the capstone with them, it's possible that TESU just basically vouches for all the Straighterline, Study.com, Saylor, etc credits and stamps their seal of approval on your degree saying, "Yup, we issued it!" 

As a counterpoint, do you note on your CV that you only did two classes at TESU to complete your BA Psych? Do you consider that to be a legit TESU degree even though you had very limited interaction with TESU, their faculty, or their curriculum? You absolutely should, but the line of thinking that leads to it being disingenuous to claim that a degree from a school came from that school also leads to wondering whether a degree based solely on transfer credit with one class should also fall under the same umbrella.

Bringing up Coursera and edX has left me confused. I'm working on a certificate on Coursera from Columbia University right now. The courses are on Coursera not Columbia's website. I'm also going to be completing a certificate on edX from RIT which again is on edX not RIT's website. So would leave Coursera and edX off when listing the certificates and just list Columbia and RIT? Man this stuff is so complicated these days!

I don't know, maybe you should just for the sake of disclosing all the information. I, for one, am going to start listing my WGU degree as:

Bachelor of Science in Information Technology - Security from Western Governors University, awarded as a result of 35 credits completed at the institution, 53 credits completed at [Community College], 6 credits approved by ACE, and my formerly-but-not-presently-held CCNP and CCNA Security certifications evaluated as equivalent to 29 credits by the institution.

That's the only way to handle this, clearly /s