ENEB New Master Thread

[SteveFoerster]

ECE has apparently changed their stance on calculating GPAs for this program. Earlier evaluations from them show grades and GPAs having been calculated. The most recent one I saw where they did calculate a GPA was posted here from 2022. I don't know if there have been any others since. But having read some information and talked to some people, it appears that the new stance is based on the fact that the transcript comes from ENEB and not Isabel.

However, I know of one person who finished a Spanish degree and the transcript came directly from the university and ECE still wouldn't calculate a GPA. The evaluator claimed that the grades need to be on the diploma, but that's nonsensical because that's not customary here or in Spain. Then the evaluator gave a bunch of completely false reasons for why they wouldn't evaluate the program as a Master's; reasons that any of us would've picked up on as being completely wrong immediately.

I'm starting to question if ECE has a grasp on what they're doing.

You raise a great question. Those foreign credential evaluators are gatekeeping US equivalency. Otherwise, the "non-profit" online degree mills, where you pay USD 20,000 for a master's degree, would be very upset. If you want a US master's equivalency for free or at a very low cost, you can study online at a public German university. If you want it easy, you can pay 20k to a degree mill in the US, do minimal work, wait for 1.5 years, and graduate with a 4.0 GPA. If you are willing to do the work, there are plenty of master's programs at around USD 4000 to 15,000. FCEs don't like the idea that you can get away with a cheap degree mill master's degree. Some of them will evaluate it because you are awarded a credential by an accredited university, but only as a bachelor's degree or graduate credit. Now, if this program were priced at 5k Euros, it would be a different story.

We should accept that ENEB programs are useful as a stepping stone for earning a more reputable degree or for showing willingness to learn new things to your prospective employers, stop bugging FCEs about it, and move on.

Let me get this straight: FCEs adjust their evaluations to their own detriment to benefit US institutions that they're not affiliated with? Why in their world would they do that?

I mean, rather than resort to a conspiracy theory that doesn't actually make any sense, wouldn't it seem the simpler explanation is that they don't really know what they're doing, and they don't use replicable procedures to make their determinations?

Also, "degree mill" is not a synonym for "school that's accredited, but I still don't like".