ENEB New Master Thread

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ENEB is not a degree granting institution in Spain. It has not been granted degree awarding powers by the Spanish Parliament or the legislative assembly of the Autonomous Community of Catalunya, nor is it listed in the RUCT as an official centro universitario adscrito to Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla. Accreditation by the European Association for International Education and membership in the Spanish Association of Business Schools do not confer official degree granting status or recognition as an official centro universitario adscrito.

Schools like ENEB are allowed to award their own degrees, they just cannot present them as "oficial" since their programs are not accredited and cannot be registered with the Spanish government. We already know that. That is the whole reason why schools like theirs link up with accredited universities like Isabel.

Considering that, I wouldn't ever submit the ENEB diploma. I would only submit the Isabel diploma.

Because ENEB is neither a degree granting university nor an official centro universitario adscrito, ECE can only show credit for the specialization program if Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla issues documentation confirming that it awarded ECTS credits for the program. If the university does not issue documentation showing they are awarding credit themselves, ECE has no basis to assign credit.

If they're taking that angle, it took them 5 years to reach it because up until 2024(?) they were evaluating these courses-by-course. Regardless, Isabel makes it clear on the diploma that the program counts for ECTS so that's a non-issue.

If the university will not provide a document confirming the number of credits awarded for the specialization program, ECE can either omit this credential from the report or include it as a general item with no credit recommendation, indicating it is equivalent to non credit study.”

My issue with all of this is, why does it even matter to ECE? They know that the program was taken with ENEB and the degree is awarded by Isabel, so why does it even matter if the transcript comes from ENEB? If anything, where else would they expect it to come from? How does that change anything in reality? Somebody has to keep records. Who cares who keeps them as long as they're true and accurate?

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ENEB knows that their programs are getting blacklisted by more evaluators which is likely why they are issuing "university-specific" degrees with Universidad Isabel I transcripts through UNISEB validation.

I suspect you may be right. But isn't it funny how we all said this would happen because of some of the bad moves they had been making? We tried to tell them and they didn't listen at all.

If they think this UNISEB thing is going to be the saving grace, I think they'll be in for some surprises. If we've learned nothing in the past 5 years alone about FCEs, we've learned that they are excellent at inventing new ways to move the goalposts.

official centro universitario adscrito. 

To me means a teaching institution of a University that issues official degrees. We are talking about a Titulo Propio, not a Titulo Official.  

ENEB is a training center for titulo propio degrees, which Isabel I certifies. Isabel I does have Titulo Official degree programs, but ENEB is not that, and a Ui1 Certification is not a validation. 

Also, ENEB does not award/confer degrees; it has no ability to do so, even for a Titulo Propio. ENEB is simply providing a certificate of training.  It is Ui1 which certifies that the certificate of training at ENEB is equivalent to a Titulo Propio degree and awards the ECTS.  There is no ECTS on the ENEB Certificates, only hours. It is Isabel I which determines how many ECTS are awarded from those hours of study (1500 or 1800 hours)

I really think the person started the ECE process requesting an evaluation of ENEB without the Ui1 Certificate, and that's why this response is happening. ECE Evalution request should be initiated for the certificate from Isabel I, uploading the certificate with the QR code and CSV #.  Not initiated with an evaluation request for ENEB.  

It's quite evident to me from the below that ECE didn't get an Isabel I Certificate:

"ECE can only show credit for the specialization program if Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla issues documentation confirming that it awarded ECTS credits for the program. If the university does not issue documentation showing they are awarding credit themselves, ECE has no basis to assign credit."

The Ui1 Certificate is the documentation that shows that Ui1 is awarding ECTS itself

ECE isn't refusing to evaluate the Isabel I certificate that awards the ECTS; it's saying they can't evaluate without the Isabel I Certificate.  

@JC39, good luck, and please let us know once you resolve.