ENEB New Master Thread

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official centro universitario adscrito. 

To me means a teaching institution of a University that issues official degrees. We are talking about a Titulo Propio, not a Titulo Official.  ENEB is a teaching institution for titulo propio degrees, which Isabel I certifies. Isabel I does have Titulo Official degree programs, but ENEB is not that, and a Ui1 Certification is not a validation. 

Also, ENEB does not award/confer degrees, it has no ability to do so, even for a Titulo Propio. ENEB is simply providing a certifcate of training.  It is Ui1 which certifies that the certificate of training at ENEB is on par with a Titulo Propio degree. 

I really think the person started the ECE process requesting an evaluation of ENEB without the Ui1 Certificate, and that's why this response is happening. @JC39, please let us know.

Setting aside the definition, when ECE makes reference to "centro universitario adscrito" they're usually talking about that in the context of the RUCT database. Their position is that if a school is not in it, it's not valid. However, that position is wrong.

On a 2021 ENEB diploma I remember it mentioning a "certificate registration number", but it still stated on the diploma that it is a "Master in (insert major)." The certificate bit may or may not have to do with a way to work with or around Spanish law. I'd need to see something from the law itself that would prevent an unaccredited school from issuing their own degrees. I haven't read the law in a while and don't remember the critical points anymore.

I really think the person started the ECE process requesting an evaluation of ENEB without the Ui1 Certificate, and that's why this response is happening...

Yep, I said the same thing in an earlier post.

We can never be sure of which evaluator will get the materials and what their experience with this is, so they may not even know to reach out and tell the customer that they need to send a different document.

Yes, ENEB is registered in the Spanish Registry of Training Entities and is a member of the Spanish Alliance of Training - per our ENEB diplomas which have a certificate registration number.  But that doesn't make them a degree-awarding institution, as they are not a university. 

Upon reflecting, It seems ECE was saying to the person who posted the details, that they don't evaluate the ENEB Part. If fact ECE listed ENEB as "Non Credit" on my report but assessed only the Ui1 part.  

It seems they even offered the person to remove mention of ENEB from the Evaluation, meaning that ECE could potentially evaluate just the Isabel I portion of it without any mention of ENEB. According to the ECE report I received, it evaluates Isabel I and then mentions ENEB as a non-credit program. I didn't even receive an "S" for the credits from Ui1 on my evaluation; it was simply assessed as Equivalent to a US Bachelor's degree in Business Administration and Finance.  

So yes, the Double Degree on 1 ENEB + Ui1 Diploma was a bit strange to me at first, and I did not like it. ENEB would not change it for me.  However, ENEB and Ui1 consider it a single program when done this way.  It is essentially an MBA with a Finance concentration.  The MBA+Master programs are in essence, MBAs with specific concentrations, that's how one can look at them.