Just because you are a vet or serving currently

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Well for starters I did not call you immature, I called your opinion narrow minded and biased. Which I still believe to be the case. Looking at your comparisons you are comparing apples to oranges. The military vs the general public is not a realistic comparison. They are two different groups and of much different sizes. You are basing your statements on experiences and then taking them and generalizing for the whole civilian population. That is not likely to hold true.
What kind of jobs did you hold before you went in the military? I am think ing based on your comments they were low level unskilled jobs. In those situations you are not going to see a fair segment of society. There are many people out there not in the military who are professionals who work hard, do well and look presentable.
If you would like to present some real facts with reliable information to back them up. Then please let us know, if you want to take vague information and your own observations. Please label them such and don't try to generalize them to cover all civilians, they will fall flat every time.

I had a good paying management job with around 100 people working for me at one time, but that's irrelevant. I work with plenty of civilians while in the military too.

Much different sizes? Yes. But we're talking about the average here, and I think the 1.2 million + active duty members is more than enough of a sample size. After all, you only need about 30 points of data to get a standard deviation curve.

And by "real facts" did you mean the percents I listed of those with degrees by group?

And yes I am a little biased... but wouldn't a civilian with no real interaction with large amounts of military members be a little biased too?