ACLAS: Is this even legal?

[bjcheung77]

I would question him on his Facebook too, If I ever wanted to know why he has so many unneeded fluff... I mean, the 3-4 valid degrees are good enough at the undergrad and graduate level. The rest were way too much unnecessary additional certs, degrees, etc. The more the person had from these unaccredited institutions, the less credible they looked, instead of an authority figure in those subject matter, it looked as if they're just hoarders of credentials.

[CollegeStudentAC]

I would question him on his Facebook too, If I ever wanted to know why he has so many unneeded fluff... I mean, the 3-4 valid degrees are good enough at the undergrad and graduate level.  The rest were way too much unnecessary additional certs, degrees, etc.  The more the person had from these unaccredited institutions, the less credible they looked, instead of an authority figure in those subject matter, it looked as if they're just hoarders of credentials.

Wait, why is GIU being talked about in this thread?

[Jonathan Whatley]

I would question him on his Facebook too, If I ever wanted to know why he has so many unneeded fluff... I mean, the 3-4 valid degrees are good enough at the undergrad and graduate level.  The rest were way too much unnecessary additional certs, degrees, etc.  The more the person had from these unaccredited institutions, the less credible they looked, instead of an authority figure in those subject matter, it looked as if they're just hoarders of credentials.

Wait, why is GIU being talked about in this thread?

"ACLAS" claims affiliation with the "Graham International Education Accreditation Agency," a related organization to "Graham International University."

[Gg12465]

Has anyone had experience with or knowledge about the Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (ACLAS)? I've found some concerning information I want to share:

Key points about this institution:

• Claims to be based in Atlanta, Georgia
  
• Offers online MBA, MCS, and DBA programs
  
• Only has CPD (Continuing Professional Development) recognition, NO formal academic accreditation
  
• Currently appears on the Georgia Nonpublic Education Commission (GNPEC) consumer alerts page
  

I'm curious about two things:

1. What's the business model here - how do they sustain operations without accreditation?
   
2. Are there any regulatory/legal implications for operating this way in Georgia?
   

If anyone has insights about similar institutions or relevant regulations in Georgia, I'd appreciate learning more.

It's real 
https://www.eahea.org/members/institutio...be40b.html

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https://www.eahea.org/members/institutio...1be40b.htm

[Gg12465]

Calling out a scam school is being petty? I emailed them and will be calling them by phone too.

I am all for degree hacking not this scam bullshit.

I questioned him on his Facebook and was blocked by him.

What exactly did you ask about?

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Has anyone had experience with or knowledge about the Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (ACLAS)? I've found some concerning information I want to share:

Key points about this institution:

• Claims to be based in Atlanta, Georgia
  
• Offers online MBA, MCS, and DBA programs
  
• Only has CPD (Continuing Professional Development) recognition, NO formal academic accreditation
  
• Currently appears on the Georgia Nonpublic Education Commission (GNPEC) consumer alerts page
  

I'm curious about two things:

1. What's the business model here - how do they sustain operations without accreditation?
   
2. Are there any regulatory/legal implications for operating this way in Georgia?
   

If anyone has insights about similar institutions or relevant regulations in Georgia, I'd appreciate learning more.

https://www.eahea.org/members/institutio...be40b.html Hope this helps you

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Calling out a scam school is being petty? I emailed them and will be calling them by phone too.

I am all for degree hacking not this scam bullshit.

I questioned him on his Facebook and was blocked by him.

What exactly did you ask about?

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Has anyone had experience with or knowledge about the Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (ACLAS)? I've found some concerning information I want to share:

Key points about this institution:

• Claims to be based in Atlanta, Georgia
  
• Offers online MBA, MCS, and DBA programs
  
• Only has CPD (Continuing Professional Development) recognition, NO formal academic accreditation
  
• Currently appears on the Georgia Nonpublic Education Commission (GNPEC) consumer alerts page
  

I'm curious about two things:

1. What's the business model here - how do they sustain operations without accreditation?
   
2. Are there any regulatory/legal implications for operating this way in Georgia?
   

If anyone has insights about similar institutions or relevant regulations in Georgia, I'd appreciate learning more.

https://www.eahea.org/members/institutio...be40b.html Hope this helps you

This too 
https://www.qahe.org/institute/the-atlan...ces-aclas/

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Calling out a scam school is being petty? I emailed them and will be calling them by phone too.

I am all for degree hacking not this scam bullshit.

I questioned him on his Facebook and was blocked by him.

What exactly did you ask about?

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Has anyone had experience with or knowledge about the Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (ACLAS)? I've found some concerning information I want to share:

Key points about this institution:

• Claims to be based in Atlanta, Georgia
  
• Offers online MBA, MCS, and DBA programs
  
• Only has CPD (Continuing Professional Development) recognition, NO formal academic accreditation
  
• Currently appears on the Georgia Nonpublic Education Commission (GNPEC) consumer alerts page
  

I'm curious about two things:

1. What's the business model here - how do they sustain operations without accreditation?
   
2. Are there any regulatory/legal implications for operating this way in Georgia?
   

If anyone has insights about similar institutions or relevant regulations in Georgia, I'd appreciate learning more.

https://www.eahea.org/members/institutio...be40b.html Hope this helps you

This too 
https://www.qahe.org/institute/the-atlan...ces-aclas/

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https://gaote.org/DCE-2634-3153-0424-5

[Tomas]

EAHEA and QAHE are accreditation mills, thank you.
Their main function is to list all the diploma mills in a single place, so that people don't have to spend too much time investigating.

[Gg12465]

Total scam, the actual address is for an apartment complex but the person running the scam uploaded pictures for the address to Google Maps from a senior assisted living facility.

Same thing with the bogus URL where the domain owner is hiding behind a privacy wall.

LMAO their phone number is registered to a T-Mobile cell phone in Houston, Texas that is using an AI answering service.

https://gaote.org/DCE-2634-3153-0424-5

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EAHEA and QAHE are accreditation mills, thank you.
Their main function is to list all the diploma mills in a single place, so that people don't have to spend too much time investigating.

What about https://gieaa.fgjf.org/news/aclas-grante...embership/

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EAHEA and QAHE are accreditation mills, thank you.
Their main function is to list all the diploma mills in a single place, so that people don't have to spend too much time investigating.

And https://membership.elqn.org/c/7555426fff...e0d0d7dfe5 This too

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I would question him on his Facebook too, If I ever wanted to know why he has so many unneeded fluff... I mean, the 3-4 valid degrees are good enough at the undergrad and graduate level.  The rest were way too much unnecessary additional certs, degrees, etc.  The more the person had from these unaccredited institutions, the less credible they looked, instead of an authority figure in those subject matter, it looked as if they're just hoarders of credentials.

Wait, why is GIU being talked about in this thread?

"ACLAS" claims affiliation with the "Graham International Education Accreditation Agency," a related organization to "Graham International University."

Well I see they are standing behind that claim 
https://gieaa.fgjf.org/news/aclas-grante...embership/

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My girl in Vietnam signed up for this school now. She is able to get a job doing massage here in Vietnam. Because of this school, she also manages the shop. It's fully accredited in Vietnam

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Has anyone had experience with or knowledge about the Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences (ACLAS)? I've found some concerning information I want to share:

Key points about this institution:

• Claims to be based in Atlanta, Georgia
  
• Offers online MBA, MCS, and DBA programs
  
• Only has CPD (Continuing Professional Development) recognition, NO formal academic accreditation
  
• Currently appears on the Georgia Nonpublic Education Commission (GNPEC) consumer alerts page
  

I'm curious about two things:

1. What's the business model here - how do they sustain operations without accreditation?
   
2. Are there any regulatory/legal implications for operating this way in Georgia?
   

If anyone has insights about similar institutions or relevant regulations in Georgia, I'd appreciate learning more.

On their website, about us page:

“ We believe that education and justice are powerful tools for empowering communities. To further our mission of providing accessible and impactful education, we have joined the Grassroots Justice Network, a global alliance dedicated to promoting access to justice for all. This step aligns with our mission to empower individuals and communities through accessible education, particularly in legal empowerment and social justice.”

Here is the link to Grassroots Justice Network https://grassrootsjusticenetwork.org/about-us/

Never heard about them before and don’t know if this means the college is legitimate (but so far looks like it has no accreditation status in the US)

This the link https://grassrootsjusticenetwork.org/con...-sciences/

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So I contacted IEE chat support, asking if I could get a refund because I accidently used the wrong card and they just kept on repeating the same thing, that they only evaluate foreign credentials.

Not that I believe her on this topic that they don't evaluate the school but yeah, the conversation was annoying.

[Agent]: Sorry for the delay in response as we are receiving a high volume of inquiries today.

[Me]: okay

[Agent]: Thank you for the confirmation Arshveer Cheema. As per checking this is a newly placed order for Education Document + GPA Report for your Master Of Business Administration you earned from Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences here in US correct?

[Me]: yes

[Agent]: Please note that we do not evaluate credentials earned in US.

This is IEE. We are a NACES member and are accredited to evaluate foreign credentials (eraned outside of US) to be used for further study programs in the US to your college or university of choice, or for employment/immigration/military, and licensure purposes. 

We also offer assessment of your foreign credentials for Canada with education and employment as purposes.

[Me]: no no

[Me]: you guys have partnership

[Me]: https://myiee.org/university/atlanta-col...d-sciences

[Agent]: Yes we do have partnership with Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences. However the credential you listed is from US from the same University.

[Agent]: [image]

[Agent]: Please confirm if you have another credential that you earned outside of US which we can evaluate. Again we cannot evaluated credentials earned in US since they are already in the US grading system.

[Me]: Wait

[Me]: I am not understanding. I literally linked you the partnership sitr

[Me]: It has "start evaluation" button

[Me]: and you guys have partnership

[Me]: So how do you guys not evaluate?

[Agent]: As mentioned we do have partnership with Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.

[Agent]: However the credential you listed is from the same college, please refer to the screenshot for the details of the credential you add.

[Agent]: [image]

[Me]: I know the details I added? Are you saying it's not the same college? I don't understand the problem

[Me]: Do I have to email the ceo if you can't help me?

[Agent]: We have reviewed the information you've provided and noticed that your academic credentials are from an institution in the U.S. 

We would like to bring to your attention that IEE ONLY evaluates foreign academic credentials.
We are a NACES member and we are accredited to evaluate foreign credentials to be used for further study programs in the U.S. at your college or university of choice, or for employment/immigration, or  licensure purposes.

[Me]: What don't you understand about the partnership to evaluate? That you guys literally have a page for them

After, she asked me if I had a transcript from another school that I wanted to evaluate...

You not getting what she saying if you in another part of the world doing the course which my girl in Vietnam and now managing a massage shop. She was able to get Her IEE vaild by her employer and by the vietnam education department for verification her name is Yèn

[Tomas]

You have missed an important point then. You shall have said that this degree which one can purchase and finish over weekend, can be validated in Vietnam. That only makes it somewhat real in Vietnam.

There are 190+ countries in this world. In most of them, it is worthless.

In Europe, where EAHEA is based, it is worth less than the paper degree was printed on.

[Ares]

Man the scammers running this degree mill think tripling down will make a difference.

[bjcheung77]

Hmm, Is it just me or is there something going on with this thread? It's got 12 pages already? I'm not sure why we're getting so much traction on this particular institution and others mentioned... Readers know where to look for warning signs and advice, thus, this institution isn't going to be one of them they'll even consider.

Side Note: In Vietnam and other countries, they may look at these as non credit courses with completion certificate, continuing education or professional development classes, at most, an undergraduate certificate or diploma level from an unaccredited college. These won't be transferable into their educational system, not for immigration either.