Any language degrees?

[KayV]

The AP exams partially cover culture, but they count as intro level credits just like the CLEP does. History of Civilization is a completely different course.

Also, AP got rid of most of its literature offerings a few years ago (to my sorrow), although they kept Spanish. Thus for the OP, counting AP French Lit is no longer even a possibility.

[sanantone]

Two exams are great - but do the available tests add up to a major requirement? All the exams available might give the OP a teachable subject (18 credits) but a major? I dunno.

Another poster wrote: "TESU offers a foreign language degree but has very specific requirements that would have to be transferred in and some of the requirements might not have too many options, would most likely require semester based courses."

Yes, I believe there are a lot of possibilities for the OP to earn a degree, using his language proficiency to advantage. I just don't think a degree with a language major in a year is a realistic possibility. But I could be wrong. I've been wrong twice before - once in 1998 and again in 2005. So -- I'm braced and ready.

J.

I don't know because we haven't gotten a report from anyone on how TESU transcribes the LTI. Nightmoves5 gave us course codes, but no course names. Those course codes are not listed on the TESU website. TESU accepts four other language exam programs, and we do not know how TESU transcribes those. Lastly, I did not say that one can completely test out of a language degree; I said one can come CLOSE. On this, I really do not understand what you're arguing about. I'm not even sure if you bothered to take a look at TESU's requirements. You're just going by what people say without knowing the actual requirements. For some reason, you feel that I'm not as credible, but TESU is more credible than anyone here.

Since you either can't remember or didn't comprehend my post, I will quote it here. Maybe you'll be able to tell me what you're arguing.

English programs are not designed like foreign language programs. While one cannot test out of all the requirements of a foreign language degree, one can get pretty close. This forum has found all kinds of hacks.

TESU's foreign language degree has 9 credits that are specific and potentially cannot be covered by tests. Twelve of the credits are for intermediate and advanced language skills; those are easily covered by tests. You do have to complete a 3-credit capstone that you can't test out of, but that is the case for all of TESU's bachelor's degrees with the exception of the BSBAs. The rest of the credits in the major are electives where TESU only makes suggestions. This area is very flexible and can include advanced grammar courses. "Close" can be a subjective word, but I think coming within nine credits of testing out of a degree (not including the capstone) is pretty close.

*This list is a guide. Other foreign language courses may be appropriate for this area of study.

Thomas Edison State University: Foreign Language

I believe I've proven you wrong on something in the past couple of years, so this might be the fourth time you've been wrong in your life. Due to cognitive dissonance, I bet I won't get any likes on my post for being right. People would rather give you likes for arguing something I never said in the first place, which makes no sense to me.

[cookderosa]

I agree with this totally. I have one quick question. From looking at the requirements, it's only 9 credits after the "Advanced Language I/II".
Since you should be able to complete 21-30 credits using a combo of tests and the ACTFL/NYC, etc to get those credits....
Can one finish the degree off with just 9-12 credits of UL language courses? And can one do so with PLA using cheap MOOC courses?

Link: Thomas Edison State University: Foreign Language

II. Area of Study: Foreign Language 33
A. Required Courses 21
Language skills through the advanced level (12)
Intermediate Language I and II (6)
AND Advanced Language I and II (6)

Note: Elementary/beginning-level language CANNOT be applied toward the area of study requirement
History of Civilization (3)
Major Writers/Masterpieces of Literature (6)
B. Capstone 3 LIB-495 Liberal Arts Capstone (3)
C. Foreign Language Electives* 9

Courses transferred to Thomas Edison State University are equated to the following levels:
100, 200, 300 or 400. A minimum of 18 credits equating to 300 or 400 are required.

*This list is a guide. Other foreign language courses may be appropriate for this area of study.

Note 1: Other foreign language areas of study may be modeled after the above. The area of study must be planned with a BA degree program advisor.
Note 2: All courses applied toward the foreign language area of study are REQUIRED to be taught in that specific foreign language, not in English translation.

He's only have to do this for 1 language. The other languages would just be there as extra credits via exam.
Edit to add- the one thing you can ALWAYS do is to find a graduate level class. These transfer back into TESU at the upper level undergrad. It's not the cheapest way, but I wouldn't hesitate to milk every single opportunity out of this degree if I were in your shoes.

[KayV]

This might work:

The ACTFL/ NYU exams could count for most of the courses.

For French, you might be able to use these courses from University of Missouri, but get them approved first because they are literature in translation:

Course Search | Mizzou Online | University of Missouri

For Spanish, you could take them from Arkansas or Oklahoma self-paced courses:
Self-Paced
https://online.uark.edu/courses/2017-spr...e-list.php

[sanantone]

This might work:

The ACTFL/ NYU exams could count for most of the courses.

For French, you might be able to use these courses from University of Missouri, but get them approved first because they are literature in translation:

Course Search | Mizzou Online | University of Missouri

For Spanish, you could take them from Arkansas or Oklahoma self-paced courses:
Self-Paced
https://online.uark.edu/courses/2017-spr...e-list.php

So, even though I never said this (this is what the OP wants), the only thing holding a person back from finishing this degree quickly is how fast he or she can test out of the rest of the requirements. It does not take long to complete three or so courses, especially if they are self-paced. The hardest part of finishing fast, as is the case with any degree, is being able to test out of over 100 credits within a short period of time.

[KayV]

I think I missed some backstory but I agree with you. The hardest part is finding those courses in the target language, so I'm not sure if the Missouri ones for French would work because they are in translation. OP wanted to know about getting language degree and as you said, wanted to do this as quickly as possible. So it makes sense that getting the other credits quickly would be a deciding factor.

[sanantone]

I think I missed some backstory but I agree with you. The hardest part is finding those courses in the target language, so I'm not sure if the Missouri ones for French would work because they are in translation. OP wanted to know about getting language degree and as you said, wanted to do this as quickly as possible. So it makes sense that getting the other credits quickly would be a deciding factor.

I mean, the hardest part is testing out of gen ed and free electives quickly because those two areas are almost 100 credits. The bulk of the language area of study is covered by two or three tests. The rest of the major is just three courses which anyone can complete in a semester or less. Whether or not the OP can finish in one year is independent of the major. Even if we were talking about liberal studies, which actually would require more tests for those who do not know a foreign language, it is still difficult to test out in a year. People have done it, but it takes a lot of focus and good test-taking skills.

I just don't understand why people are making a big deal out of a few courses. You don't even have to complete them as courses; they can be completed as portfolio assessments. I completed about 60 credits in less than a year (that was all I needed to finish my degree), and more than half of those credits came from semester-based courses at a community college.

[dfrecore]

I mean, the hardest part is testing out of gen ed and free electives quickly because those two areas are almost 100 credits. The bulk of the language area of study is covered by two or three tests. The rest of the major is just three courses which anyone can complete in a semester or less. Whether or not the OP can finish in one year is independent of the major. Even if we were talking about liberal studies, which actually would require more tests for those who do not know a foreign language, it is still difficult to test out in a year. People have done it, but it takes a lot of focus and good test-taking skills.

I just don't understand why people are making a big deal out of a few courses. You don't even have to complete them as courses; they can be completed as portfolio assessments. I completed about 60 credits in less than a year (that was all I needed to finish my degree), and more than half of those credits came from semester-based courses at a community college.

I think that in this particular instance (a degree in foreign language), it may be difficult for the OP to find the courses they need. And, we don't know for certain that they could portfolio out of them easily. Just because you're fluent in a language does not mean that you have read 2 semesters worth of literature in that language (a requirement) or watched enough films in or know art or theater or poetry or the history of that language to do a semester's worth of work. The OP is "interested" in this, but did not say that they had enough info to be able to do portfolios for all of this. Not saying that it's impossible, it's just not as quick and easy as some other degrees are here. And this is what we specialize in on this forum.

Also, the OP specifically wanted to get a degree in translation, which would be even harder, since that doesn't exist at any of the Big 3. They would need to go find that degree somewhere else.

[sanantone]

I think that in this particular instance (a degree in foreign language), it may be difficult for the OP to find the courses they need. And, we don't know for certain that they could portfolio out of them easily. Just because you're fluent in a language does not mean that you have read 2 semesters worth of literature in that language (a requirement) or watched enough films in or know art or theater or poetry or the history of that language to do a semester's worth of work. The OP is "interested" in this, but did not say that they had enough info to be able to do portfolios for all of this. Not saying that it's impossible, it's just not as quick and easy as some other degrees are here. And this is what we specialize in on this forum.

Also, the OP specifically wanted to get a degree in translation, which would be even harder, since that doesn't exist at any of the Big 3. They would need to go find that degree somewhere else.

All one has to do is Google "online degree in French," and you'll find your courses. There are three schools that pop up at the top: Armstrong University, Oregon State University, and University of Louisiana at Monroe.

University of Wisconsin offers independent study courses in French civilization, literature, and poetry. Cathgrl already found this, but people glossed over it. I gave her a like for actually providing helpful information since no one else did.

Independent Learning, UW Madison Continuing Studies

These are things that were quickly found with a search, so I believe it was a waste of time and bandwidth to repeatedly say you can't do this or that. It's also misleading, discouraging, and lazy.

[KayV]

Sorry that providing three sources for those courses was unhelpful, misleading, discouraging, and lazy, Sanantone.

I have rarely seen a thread over such a benign topic evolve into such vitriol.