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AYE! I don't have anything personal against COSC or TESC offers more bang for my government buck. EC doesn't give me any more credits from my military training than COSC but TESC gives me over 70 credits towards a BSAST. Now that is a good deal!
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04-04-2008, 05:05 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-04-2008, 05:09 AM by snazzlefrag.)
Hi All,
The "Big 3" doesn't refer to the size of the school, the type or title of the degrees offered, the cost, or the quality of the web site. It merely refers to the fact that they are each one of only three regionally accredited schools in the nation that will allow you to transfer in 100% of the required credits to earn a degree.
I don't think this conversation is heading in a good direction. COSC, TESC, and Excelsior are all three legitimate and accredited schools with quite a bit of good solid history behind them. Above all, they each offer HOPE and OPPORTUNITY to many who otherwise might never be able to earn their degree (for whatever reason). The decision to attend any one of the schools over another is a very personal one and should not be up for ridicule or debate.
We intentionally try to maintain a very encouraging, supportive, and mutually beneficial forum, and I want to caution us against walking down a road which might distract, disturb, demean, devalue, or discourage ANYONE among us!
Let's agree to move on from this topic please.
Thank You,
Snazzlefrag
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While I may have added a slight bit of humor in the message, I was being serious. I know what the big three means. With an enrollment of about 1,500 students, that equals 30 students per state if we were to look at it that way. I was serious about the phone call and where it went to. As far as supportive, I did not intend to make fun of anyone who attended, that definitely was not my intention. It's more general information. I mean, truthfully, how many people would pick COSC if they knew it was really that small a school. Personally, I have no axe to grind with the school. They never did anything bad to me. Consider this issue dropped.
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04-04-2008, 01:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-04-2008, 01:20 PM by cookderosa.)
pmc2009 Wrote:I am trying to decide between cosc and tesc. I have read a ton of information on this board already (thanks to all!) but am wondering if anyone has any opinions comparing these 2 schools. They seem to be almost identical except the COSC enrollment fee is about $1,000 less than TESC. I am just wondering if any TESC students might have time to tell me why they chose the more expensive route. At first I wanted TESC because I thought it listed the major on the degree but I recently found a post stating otherwise. It seems both COSC and TESC list only Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science, so why pay more? :confused: >>
TESC offers a free credit earning option called "Credit for prior teaching" which grants you credit for classes you teach at an RA college- but have never taken. In my case, my associates degree was from an NA college, but I teach at an RA college, so every class I teach was accepted by TESC for credit (they wouldn't give me credit for the classes I attended as a student because of the NA issue). So, I submitted over 100 credit hours for teaching credit, and they awarded me 27 (the max) thus filling my free elective requirement. EC and CO don't offer that option as far as I could tell, so that was a big selling point for me.
While I could have filled my free elective credits using FEMA (also free $) this was a way for me to get my NA credits onto an RA transcript- something that may or may not matter, but I jumped at the chance.
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snazzlefrag Wrote:Hi All,
The "Big 3" doesn't refer to the size of the school, the type or title of the degrees offered, the cost, or the quality of the web site. It merely refers to the fact that they are each one of only three regionally accredited schools in the nation that will allow you to transfer in 100% of the required credits to earn a degree.
I don't think this conversation is heading in a good direction. COSC, TESC, and Excelsior are all three legitimate and accredited schools with quite a bit of good solid history behind them. Above all, they each offer HOPE and OPPORTUNITY to many who otherwise might never be able to earn their degree (for whatever reason). The decision to attend any one of the schools over another is a very personal one and should not be up for ridicule or debate.
We intentionally try to maintain a very encouraging, supportive, and mutually beneficial forum, and I want to caution us against walking down a road which might distract, disturb, demean, devalue, or discourage ANYONE among us!
Let's agree to move on from this topic please.
Thank You,
Snazzlefrag
Snazz, you summed it up beautifully.
As you stated, I will definitely move on from this topic, but it is hard not to feel insulted as a Charter Oak grad. I'd always looked at this board as a place to receive support, and I hope that continues.
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crshore Wrote:Snazz, you summed it up beautifully.
As you stated, I will definitely move on from this topic, but it is hard not to feel insulted as a Charter Oak grad. I'd always looked at this board as a place to receive support, and I hope that continues.
I agree. Charter Oaks looks good to me. I am an Excelsior grad (in those days, the University of the State of New York). My daughter may decide to go to Charter Oaks, with my blessing. All 3 universities look fine.
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Gary Wrote:I personally feel that COSC shouldn't be mentioned as one of the big 3. I think it should be called the little 2. COSC has under 2,000 students, heck big family reunions have almost that many. I don't see why anyone would want to waste their time with them. It doesn't even merit mention anymore. Even their website looks hokey. Not meant as an insult to anyone who has graduated from there but I would be looking at Excelsior (donation beggars) or TESC (you don't get answers unless you pay $75 bucks). You don't really know if they (COSC) will be around for long. I move that we stop referring to COSC as one of the big three. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE!
I think it is clear by now but I'll still add my two cents, the COSC being a part of the big three has nothing to do with its size of enrollment, it has to do with its policy of transfer credits, I personally do not care if the only had 12 students at their school, it is accredited, cheap and has some great programs. COSC stays in the big three until these things change. by the way I am an excelsior grad if anyone cares
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This subject was going to get dropped but I see that it hasn't. I stand by my reasoning concerning COSC, I attended a tech school back in 1992 that is no longer in business and that is what I could see possibly happening with COSC. Who wants to spend the time and money with the chance that the school COULD fold, and now you have a "possibly" questionable degree. But we can disagree on this subject, that's fine. I never meant to insult anyone, but in reality, when I look back at my post, it was demeaning. I apoligize for that. It came out in a negative way and that was not my intention. I posted it after working the midnight shift and being exhausted which was my first mistake. This is a good website and it does provide a lot of good feedback and it does better people. There are ways to provide feedback which may not coincide with everyones beliefs, mine was not the right way. I have 5 classes to go and I'm focusing my energies on that. I am taking myself out of the game and I'll sit on the bench and once in awhile check this site. I am sorry for seeming to make a joke out of peoples achievements because truthfully, it was not my intention. Like Snazz said, time to move on. I got spanked, deserved it, end of story. Now, I'm just eating popcorn.
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cookderosa Wrote:>>
TESC offers a free credit earning option called "Credit for prior teaching" which grants you credit for classes you teach at an RA college- but have never taken. In my case, my associates degree was from an NA college, but I teach at an RA college, so every class I teach was accepted by TESC for credit (they wouldn't give me credit for the classes I attended as a student because of the NA issue). So, I submitted over 100 credit hours for teaching credit, and they awarded me 27 (the max) thus filling my free elective requirement. EC and CO don't offer that option as far as I could tell, so that was a big selling point for me.
While I could have filled my free elective credits using FEMA (also free $) this was a way for me to get my NA credits onto an RA transcript- something that may or may not matter, but I jumped at the chance.
So you can get credit from TESC for teaching? How do you do this and where do I sign up? I'm in NYC. I am battling between picking COSC vs TESC and at first was with COSC, but now I'm really starting to lean toward TESC. The ONLY thing I wasn't crazy about is/was their name and that's because I live in NYC and our ONLY major utility company out here is called...drum roll, CON EDISON! I just didn't want my college degree to be associated with that, but outside of NYC I don't think anyone knows a thing about ConEdison and TESC. I hope that TESC, on my resume, just won't stand out and people start conversing about it etc. I don't want to talk about it, just interview me and give me an honest shot at the job lol.
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PS. I realize that TESC offers an actual major vs COSC that does things differently (which I'm totally not against), but if you go to TESC, does your transcript at least list your major as the one you picked? What about COSC's transcript? What major is listed?
Another random thought..if TESC offers a major, why can't they just list it on the darned diploma? Is the extra ink really that expensive? hilarious
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