Can a school know if you have a degree, if you don't tell them?

[EDUxplorer]

This has been a really interesting topic; to be transparent, I'm not looking to hide anything. I did, however, find it interesting that this is something schools sometimes take into consideration.

Example of if you have a Bachelor's Degree:
• Harvard College will not accept you, according to the admissions person I spoke to
• Excelsior University has a "2nd Degree" policy where a student must have at least 30 credits from their university if they already have a Bachelor's Degree completed and are working on their 2nd one. However, for your first, they will transfer up to 113 credits for some, meaning you only need to finish 7 credits vs. the 30.

However, most schools I've talked to do not have a rule about this. I found it interesting, and of course, I question how much it could be validated.

[ifomonay]

Yes, you can lie and get away with it. I don't think universities care though. Most people who lie and cheat wouldn't be able to make it through a graduate program. You need to have a strong mind which ethically-challenged people don't. People who try to beat the system and take shortcuts will withdraw the first time they'll be required to pull an all-nighter to study for an exam or complete a term project.

[ss20ts]

This has been a really interesting topic; to be transparent, I'm not looking to hide anything. I did, however, find it interesting that this is something schools sometimes take into consideration.

Example of if you have a Bachelor's Degree:
• Harvard College will not accept you, according to the admissions person I spoke to
• Excelsior University has a "2nd Degree" policy where a student must have at least 30 credits from their university if they already have a Bachelor's Degree completed and are working on their 2nd one. However, for your first, they will transfer up to 113 credits for some, meaning you only need to finish 7 credits vs. the 30.

However, most schools I've talked to do not have a rule about this. I found it interesting, and of course, I question how much it could be validated.

There are some schools out there who won't accept someone for a second bachelor's degree. EU also requires that those 30 credits all be UL and not taken before the first degree is conferred. Many schools require 30 additional credits after the first bachelor's degree is completed. EU does not want students earning a second bachelor's degree. I went through this with them last year. I ended up completing my second bachelor's degree at UMPI where I needed to complete an additional 30 credits.

[bjcheung77]

@EDUxplorer, you're most likely not going back for undergrad degrees when you already have a Masters.  My suggestion is going to other public/state schools if you ever need a second bachelors in a different subject field.  If I was looking for a second bachelors, I would think carefully and see if a master's would be better.

For example, public/state bachelors ladder up to Harvard Extension School for a Masters in 5 different subject fields in technology, the total cost would be $37,500 USD.  I think that's a better deal than paying for their Bachelors!  And here's a thread to review: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...gue-School

[midnite123]

Yes, you can lie and get away with it. I don't think universities care though. Most people who lie and cheat wouldn't be able to make it through a graduate program. You need to have a strong mind which ethically-challenged people don't. People who try to beat the system and take shortcuts will withdraw the first time they'll be required to pull an all-nighter to study for an exam or complete a term project.

Hi,
I don't know about ethically challenged people not being smart.
In Business and politics, there are many examples of Successful people with Bad ethics.
Some got caught eventually, some did not.
Look at Fidel Castro for an example.

My observations tell me some psychopaths are highly intelligent ,and strong minded.

Also, I have Friends who have told me that their Masters degree courses were on average easier than  their undergraduate courses.

I am not trying to be contrary.
I just do not understand Why colleges care if people get 2nd Bachelors Degrees???

[ss20ts]

I just do not understand Why colleges care if people get 2nd Bachelors Degrees???

$$$$$

They only have so much space. They can only have a certain number of students. If someone only has to complete 30 credits they won't make much off of them. Someone who needs 60 or 120 credits is far more profitable. 

Then there's the philosophy that students should keep moving forward. Spread their wings kind of thing.

[davewill]

I just do not understand Why colleges care if people get 2nd Bachelors Degrees???

Public universities care because they are subsidized. Why should the state help pay for second or third degrees? Beyond that, most schools have limited spots available, which they prioritize for first-time degree seekers.