Determining countability of a journal toward a PhD by Published Work

[EliEverIsAHero]

How does one determine if a journal will be seen as credible for the purposes of a future/potential PhD by Published Work?

Should one, for example, be suspicious of newer journals? Low-impact journals? Solely-online journals? Policy/practitioner-oriented journals versus more stringently academic ones? Would a potential doctoral thesis committee refuse to count an article/paper in some of these types of publication?

[NotJoeBiden]

High impact, peer-reviewed journal. Q1 typically.

[Charles Fout]

How does one determine if a journal will be seen as credible for the purposes of a future/potential PhD by Published Work?

Should one, for example, be suspicious of newer journals? Low-impact journals? Solely-online journals? Policy/practitioner-oriented journals versus more stringently academic ones? Would a potential doctoral thesis committee refuse to count an article/paper in some of these types of publication?

Surely, You are asking about something entirely different.

However, the title of this thread put a big smile on my face. I'm reminded of a Degreeinfo character of many years ago.  Dr. Neil Hayes of New Zealand, often derided as "Dr. Duck," used to take severe beatings about a doctorate earned by publication.  The degree was awarded by a known degree mill. Trinity something or other. Dr. Hayes was an expert on and had written about the Brown Teal Duck.

[wow]

I'm reminded of a Degreeinfo character of many years ago.  Dr. Neil Hayes of New Zealand, often derided as "Dr. Duck," used to take severe beatings about a doctorate earned by publication.  The degree was awarded by a known degree mill. Trinity something or other. Dr. Hayes was an expert on and had written about the Brown Teal Duck.

Dr. Duck was derision? I'd take that as an honor. From everything I can gather, he is well respected in New Zealand birding and ornithological communities and at least one of his papers has been quite influential, regardless of the degree.

But I digress!

[Charles Fout]

You'll have no argument from me regarding his expertise. It was just reading
"...potential PhD by Published Work?" that made me smile and remember him

[EliEverIsAHero]

High impact, peer-reviewed journal. Q1 typically.

Thanks for this!

Most places where I've submitted work (from prior degrees, so it wouldn't count for a Doctorate by Publication anyway) have been relatively new and/or low-impact journals, so what you're suggesting I think is that 120-300 pages or so with a Q1 publication is a must?

[SteveFoerster]

This seems backwards to me. The point of these programs is to be an alternative path for those who have already been academics and thus already have a large body of published scholarly work. If that's not the case for you, then why not just do a PhD normally?

[bluebooger]

....Dr. Hayes was an expert on and had written about the Brown Teal Duck.

reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXD9HnrNrvk

[SteveFoerster]

I'm reminded of a Degreeinfo character of many years ago.  Dr. Neil Hayes of New Zealand, often derided as "Dr. Duck," used to take severe beatings about a doctorate earned by publication.  The degree was awarded by a known degree mill. Trinity something or other. Dr. Hayes was an expert on and had written about the Brown Teal Duck.

Dr. Duck was derision? I'd take that as an honor. From everything I can gather, he is well respected in New Zealand birding and ornithological communities and at least one of his papers has been quite influential, regardless of the degree.

But I digress!

Indeed, he was awarded a Queen's Service Medal from New Zealand for his important conservation work. But alas, in the forums he's only remembered for the other thing. Truly, the evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones....

[EliEverIsAHero]

This seems backwards to me. The point of these programs is to be an alternative path for those who have already been academics and thus already have a large body of published scholarly work. If that's not the case for you, then why not just do a PhD normally?

I appreciate you mentioning this. The idea was put forward to me by a few folks here and elsewhere who suggested it was a more cost-effective and/or time-effective alternative to a traditional path to a Doctorate. 

However, this assumes an extant portfolio of work, which I don't have yet. And as mentioned my forays into the world of publishing/journals are with relatively young, low-impact publications as of right now. I am certainly not J.M. Berger, who I understand earned his PhD through one of his many published books on the topic of Violent Extremism if memory serves. Nor am I someone whose work has caught the attention of International Security, Political Science Quarterly, and the like. 

I've run into similar assumptions about having a portfolio when inquiring about more traditionally-formatted PhD programs in some parts of Europe - the various POIs I've contacted expressed interest only in further communication about my research concept/s if I could show them my portfolio of published work. Which, unfortunately, I don't quite have.