ENEB Master Thread

[SteveFoerster]

That is a similar message to what i received from Foundation for International Services.  They don't want to answer your question without a pre-evaluation but since I came with a lot of research on Master propio as well as other evaluations received from different evaluation companies, IEE gave me the likelihood of it being evaluated as a Graduate Certificate.  Ironically,   every evaluation that comes out less than a Masters is considered accredited but once it is evaluated as a Masters it is non-accredited or unrecognized.  In theory, this is likely why they are offering MCA Business School validation so that they can attempt to top off ENEB as an accredited Masters since state-authorized school degrees are considered official and the certification of their courses through Isabel I cannot grant an official Masters.   If some of the evaluators accept validation degrees, it is essentially possible that they could equate it to a accredited Masters or something practically equivalent with a halfhearted explanation like "Masters degree from a non-accredited institution authorized to award degrees with recommendation of transferable credits due to certification by a regionally accredited school."

I'm curious when they'll set up a validation agreement with a DEAC school in the US for a $500 or so fee per program. Expensive, sure, but many of the DEAC schools would love to get easy money and only need to validate a program

We don't have that type of system in the U.S.

Regionally accredited SNHU does something very similar to this right now with their partnership with Kepler: https://www.kepler.org/

[sanantone]

That is a similar message to what i received from Foundation for International Services.  They don't want to answer your question without a pre-evaluation but since I came with a lot of research on Master propio as well as other evaluations received from different evaluation companies, IEE gave me the likelihood of it being evaluated as a Graduate Certificate.  Ironically,   every evaluation that comes out less than a Masters is considered accredited but once it is evaluated as a Masters it is non-accredited or unrecognized.  In theory, this is likely why they are offering MCA Business School validation so that they can attempt to top off ENEB as an accredited Masters since state-authorized school degrees are considered official and the certification of their courses through Isabel I cannot grant an official Masters.   If some of the evaluators accept validation degrees, it is essentially possible that they could equate it to a accredited Masters or something practically equivalent with a halfhearted explanation like "Masters degree from a non-accredited institution authorized to award degrees with recommendation of transferable credits due to certification by a regionally accredited school."

I'm curious when they'll set up a validation agreement with a DEAC school in the US for a $500 or so fee per program. Expensive, sure, but many of the DEAC schools would love to get easy money and only need to validate a program

We don't have that type of system in the U.S.

Regionally accredited SNHU does something very similar to this right now with their partnership with Kepler: https://www.kepler.org/

These students are taking SNHU courses and earning SNHU degrees. Kepler is just offering additional support services.

[rachel83az]

I've distilled the contents of this thread down to a single wiki page so that people don't have to wade through 75 pages of this stuff: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB

Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be corrected, expanded upon, or that I missed.

[Flelm]

I was going to make a joke asking how you managed to distill the back and forth arguing into a single wiki page, but I couldn't come up with the right premise.

[rachel83az]

I was going to make a joke asking how you managed to distill the back and forth arguing into a single wiki page, but I couldn't come up with the right premise.

I actually did try to fairly portray the back-and-forth as much as I could! There have been some legitimate concerns raised about why ENEB is possibly a poor choice and I included those concerns so that people would be able to decide for themselves whether or not it's worth the time/money to invest in ENEB or if they'd be better off going elsewhere.

[Flelm]

I actually just impulse-bought this because there's a 20% off coupon code right now. I'm treating this as a graduate-level certificate that I might be able to transfer into Walden.

[allvia]

I was going to make a joke asking how you managed to distill the back and forth arguing into a single wiki page, but I couldn't come up with the right premise.

I actually did try to fairly portray the back-and-forth as much as I could! There have been some legitimate concerns raised about why ENEB is possibly a poor choice and I included those concerns so that people would be able to decide for themselves whether or not it's worth the time/money to invest in ENEB or if they'd be better off going elsewhere.

I doubt Amberton would accept these credits for any of their degrees, including the MA Professional Development.  They are generous with the 12 graduate credits, but they are very particular about them meeting their criteria for acceptance.  Amberton will only accept 3 credit courses (4 courses x 3 graduate credits = 12). If you have any 4 credit graduate courses (such as a science w/lab) you'd be out of luck.  I also believe they only expect RA credits for transfer.

[rachel83az]

I was going to make a joke asking how you managed to distill the back and forth arguing into a single wiki page, but I couldn't come up with the right premise.

I actually did try to fairly portray the back-and-forth as much as I could! There have been some legitimate concerns raised about why ENEB is possibly a poor choice and I included those concerns so that people would be able to decide for themselves whether or not it's worth the time/money to invest in ENEB or if they'd be better off going elsewhere.

I doubt Amberton would accept these credits for any of their degrees, including the MA Professional Development.  They are generous with the 12 graduate credits, but they are very particular about them meeting their criteria for acceptance.  Amberton will only accept 3 credit courses (4 courses x 3 graduate credits = 12). If you have any 4 credit graduate courses (such as a science w/lab) you'd be out of luck.  I also believe they only expect RA credits for transfer.

That's a shame! But I suppose it's to be expected. Graduate credits don't transfer well in general.

[TINASAM]

When you're done, how are you going to list it on your resume?

ENEB?

or

University Isabel I de Castilla?

or alternate....


I'm on the fence on taking these classes but if I decide to, I'm leaning on listing it as University Isabel I de Castilla. Since you get two degrees, one from ENEB and one from Isabel, I figure that will be fine but I'd like some feedback to what others are planning to do in this situation.

[eLearner]

When you're done, how are you going to list it on your resume?

ENEB?

or

University Isabel I de Castilla?

or alternate....


I'm on the fence on taking these classes but if I decide to, I'm leaning on listing it as University Isabel I de Castilla. Since you get two degrees, one from ENEB and one from Isabel, I figure that will be fine but I'd like some feedback to what others are planning to do in this situation.

Because of the dual award, I find it acceptable to list one or the other. I have also seen some list them both in a single line. It's important to note that ECE evaluated it as an Isabel credential and that was based on Isabel's issuance of it's own signed, dated, and official seal stamped degree document.