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Fastest programming, cyber security degree?
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grozaguy00 Wrote:What is the ACE option?

It's their army/military/navy, etc (active duty) option, individuals who have ACE options can use up to 30 credits. It's unclear if civilians can use this feature or not, but there is no harm in asking. Link: https://online.arizona.edu/active-military , under Joint Services Transcripts, click More Info. It'll give you the 'basic details'. Then click the transfer guide to see this link: https://transfercredit.arizona.edu/conte...ry-credits
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(05-24-2024, 04:51 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote:
grozaguy00 Wrote:What is the ACE option?

It's their army/military/navy, etc (active duty) option, individuals who have ACE options can use up to 30 credits. It's unclear if civilians can use this feature or not, but there is no harm in asking.  Link: https://online.arizona.edu/active-military , under Joint Services Transcripts, click More Info.  It'll give you the 'basic details'.  Then click the transfer guide to see this link: https://transfercredit.arizona.edu/conte...ry-credits

Well you seem like a pro so all in all whats your advice? 
How long would it take me to do 57 clep credits vs going to community college?
I might just say F it and take the online degree with WGU
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If you can live at home, and get in state tuition, I'd advise you to attend U of A. It's a very well respected school. If you were a working engineer and just wanted a check the box degree, I'd say that WGU or TESU would be good choices, but for someone college aged who is learning to be an engineer, Arizona is a better choice. If the money for four full years is just too much, then do the community college route, but it's worth an extra effort to make it work.
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@grozaguy00 - If you go the WGU route be sure to complete and transfer all available alt credits before enrolling (which is different than applying). You cannot transfer in credits to WGU once you have enrolled (active student). This will save you a good deal of time and money. They are generally quite clear on what you can and cannot transfer in. Here is the wiki page for some reference: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:WGU
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@grozaguy00, Email them to see if they take ACE for civilians and then decide. I would do as many CLEP anyways to transfer into WGU or another institution, it's 2 years free at most, 3 for those we recommend such as Excelsior, TESU, probably UMPI and you can probably complete one a week if you study hard enough. When the 50-60 credits worth is completed, you just have to complete the remaining credits for University of Arizona.
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(05-25-2024, 10:50 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @grozaguy00, Email them to see if they take ACE for civilians and then decide.  I would do as many CLEP anyways to transfer into WGU or another institution, it's 2 years free at most, 3 for those we recommend such as Excelsior, TESU, probably UMPI and you can probably complete one a week if you study hard enough.  When the 50-60 credits worth is completed, you just have to complete the remaining credits for University of Arizona.

What is the advantage of doing ACE over CLEP?
How realistically fast can I complete 57 CLEP credits if I really put my head down and be competent? One credit a week sounds kind of slow, Im not sure if you were referring to clep in that sentence though. My two paths right now are: 
a) 57 clep credits in under >1 year, transfer to University of Arizona and eat $20k in student loans, grind 63 credits in under >2 years (3 years total)
b) Sophia Learning 60 credits, transfer WGU and complete in >2 years (total cost under $10k)
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(05-25-2024, 05:42 PM)grozaguy00 Wrote:
(05-25-2024, 10:50 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @grozaguy00, Email them to see if they take ACE for civilians and then decide.  I would do as many CLEP anyways to transfer into WGU or another institution, it's 2 years free at most, 3 for those we recommend such as Excelsior, TESU, probably UMPI and you can probably complete one a week if you study hard enough.  When the 50-60 credits worth is completed, you just have to complete the remaining credits for University of Arizona.

What is the advantage of doing ACE over CLEP?
How realistically fast can I complete 57 CLEP credits if I really put my head down and be competent? One credit a week sounds kind of slow, Im not sure if you were referring to clep in that sentence though. My two paths right now are: 
a) 57 clep credits in under >1 year, transfer to University of Arizona and eat $20k in student loans, grind 63 credits in under >2 years (3 years total)
b) Sophia Learning 60 credits, transfer WGU and complete in >2 years (total cost under $10k)

CLEP earns you ACE credits. Sophia also provides ACE credits. CLEP is accepted at around 75% of degree-granting colleges, while Sophia is accepted at far fewer colleges.

Many people can complete CLEP exams in 20-30 hours, which means it's possible to finish at least one CLEP per week, excluding some of the harder math and science CLEPs. If you have prior knowledge of the subject, you might be able to pass a CLEP exam without studying. If you can score 70% or better on a practice CLEP exam, then you are ready to take the final exam. The website BaIn4Weeks.com discusses how to complete CLEP exams quickly.

An on-campus college course typically takes around 100 hours. So anytime you can accelerate faster than that, you are effectively hacking your degree time-wise.

In the end, you need the skills to do computer programming or cybersecurity, so it's less about impressing an employer with a fancy degree. You'd be better off focusing your time on improving your skills and creating an impressive portfolio.
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(05-25-2024, 10:10 PM)LevelUP Wrote:
(05-25-2024, 05:42 PM)grozaguy00 Wrote:
(05-25-2024, 10:50 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @grozaguy00, Email them to see if they take ACE for civilians and then decide.  I would do as many CLEP anyways to transfer into WGU or another institution, it's 2 years free at most, 3 for those we recommend such as Excelsior, TESU, probably UMPI and you can probably complete one a week if you study hard enough.  When the 50-60 credits worth is completed, you just have to complete the remaining credits for University of Arizona.

What is the advantage of doing ACE over CLEP?
How realistically fast can I complete 57 CLEP credits if I really put my head down and be competent? One credit a week sounds kind of slow, Im not sure if you were referring to clep in that sentence though. My two paths right now are: 
a) 57 clep credits in under >1 year, transfer to University of Arizona and eat $20k in student loans, grind 63 credits in under >2 years (3 years total)
b) Sophia Learning 60 credits, transfer WGU and complete in >2 years (total cost under $10k)

CLEP earns you ACE credits. Sophia also provides ACE credits. CLEP is accepted at around 75% of degree-granting colleges, while Sophia is accepted at far fewer colleges.

Many people can complete CLEP exams in 20-30 hours, which means it's possible to finish at least one CLEP per week, excluding some of the harder math and science CLEPs. If you have prior knowledge of the subject, you might be able to pass a CLEP exam without studying. If you can score 70% or better on a practice CLEP exam, then you are ready to take the final exam. The website BaIn4Weeks.com discusses how to complete CLEP exams quickly.

An on-campus college course typically takes around 100 hours. So anytime you can accelerate faster than that, you are effectively hacking your degree time-wise.

In the end, you need the skills to do computer programming or cybersecurity, so it's less about impressing an employer with a fancy degree. You'd be better off focusing your time on improving your skills and creating an impressive portfolio.

Yeah I agree I still have to focus on actually programming and security. Regardless. which path do you recommend, having so many degrees yourself
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(05-25-2024, 11:41 PM)grozaguy00 Wrote:
(05-25-2024, 10:10 PM)LevelUP Wrote:
(05-25-2024, 05:42 PM)grozaguy00 Wrote:
(05-25-2024, 10:50 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @grozaguy00, Email them to see if they take ACE for civilians and then decide.  I would do as many CLEP anyways to transfer into WGU or another institution, it's 2 years free at most, 3 for those we recommend such as Excelsior, TESU, probably UMPI and you can probably complete one a week if you study hard enough.  When the 50-60 credits worth is completed, you just have to complete the remaining credits for University of Arizona.

What is the advantage of doing ACE over CLEP?
How realistically fast can I complete 57 CLEP credits if I really put my head down and be competent? One credit a week sounds kind of slow, Im not sure if you were referring to clep in that sentence though. My two paths right now are: 
a) 57 clep credits in under >1 year, transfer to University of Arizona and eat $20k in student loans, grind 63 credits in under >2 years (3 years total)
b) Sophia Learning 60 credits, transfer WGU and complete in >2 years (total cost under $10k)

CLEP earns you ACE credits. Sophia also provides ACE credits. CLEP is accepted at around 75% of degree-granting colleges, while Sophia is accepted at far fewer colleges.

Many people can complete CLEP exams in 20-30 hours, which means it's possible to finish at least one CLEP per week, excluding some of the harder math and science CLEPs. If you have prior knowledge of the subject, you might be able to pass a CLEP exam without studying. If you can score 70% or better on a practice CLEP exam, then you are ready to take the final exam. The website BaIn4Weeks.com discusses how to complete CLEP exams quickly.

An on-campus college course typically takes around 100 hours. So anytime you can accelerate faster than that, you are effectively hacking your degree time-wise.

In the end, you need the skills to do computer programming or cybersecurity, so it's less about impressing an employer with a fancy degree. You'd be better off focusing your time on improving your skills and creating an impressive portfolio.

Yeah I agree I still have to focus on actually programming and security. Regardless. which path do you recommend, having so many degrees yourself

I usually lean towards quicker options such as WGU rather than doing a flagship or ranked school such as ASU or Penn State.
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