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Feeling Pressure to Enroll, Advice Needed!
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(11-26-2020, 09:26 PM)dfrecore Wrote: The problem with academic renewal is that the school takes the grades out of the GPA calculation - but I'm not 100% certain the schools you transfer to would do the same, since they're left on the transcript.

Also, you have to remove the entire semester, rather than specific courses - so if you got some decent/good grades in a semester mixed with bad grades, you lose EVERYTHING for the semester.  So you need to weight if it's worth doing at all.

Repeating a course would be the actual course you took at that school - but that normally does a better job of "erasing" particular courses.

More research is definitely needed for the master's program, since that will be the thing you have an issue with.  Last time I looked, the MSW program a friend was interested in did not require a high GPA, and was not competitive.  You will want to see what the status is at the school you're considering, figure out if you need a Psych degree or if you can just get a BALS, and ask about how the academic renewal program at the original school would work at their school because usually, master's programs calculate the GPA themselves.

Thank you so much dfrecore, these are all great points for me to consider. I'll start researching MSW programs. 
I also could enter a Marriage and Family Therapy or a Masters Mental Health Counseling Program. A Masters in any of these will allow me to eventually be licensed as a private practice therapist. To be continued...
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(11-26-2020, 11:55 PM)MDW2447 Wrote:
(11-26-2020, 09:26 PM)dfrecore Wrote: The problem with academic renewal is that the school takes the grades out of the GPA calculation - but I'm not 100% certain the schools you transfer to would do the same, since they're left on the transcript.

Also, you have to remove the entire semester, rather than specific courses - so if you got some decent/good grades in a semester mixed with bad grades, you lose EVERYTHING for the semester.  So you need to weight if it's worth doing at all.

Repeating a course would be the actual course you took at that school - but that normally does a better job of "erasing" particular courses.

More research is definitely needed for the master's program, since that will be the thing you have an issue with.  Last time I looked, the MSW program a friend was interested in did not require a high GPA, and was not competitive.  You will want to see what the status is at the school you're considering, figure out if you need a Psych degree or if you can just get a BALS, and ask about how the academic renewal program at the original school would work at their school because usually, master's programs calculate the GPA themselves.

Thank you so much dfrecore, these are all great points for me to consider. I'll start researching MSW programs. 
I also could enter a Marriage and Family Therapy or a Masters Mental Health Counseling Program. A Masters in any of these will allow me to eventually be licensed as a private practice therapist. To be continued...

And I still say a degree in Psych is not necessary for any of these.  Psych courses might be helpful, but not necessary.  Just something to think about.
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Definitely contact the school (Master's) and lay out your situation. I find it highly likely that they would be inclined to discount those old Fs if you turn in a good package otherwise. Another important point; your transcript is only one part of your application package. If you can get some good internships or work/volunteer experience that will likely help as much or more than trying to erase those old Fs.
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(11-28-2020, 11:19 AM)davewill Wrote: Definitely contact the school (Master's) and lay out your situation. I find it highly likely that they would be inclined to discount those old Fs if you turn in a good package otherwise. Another important point; your transcript is only one part of your application package. If you can get some good internships or work/volunteer experience that will likely help as much or more than trying to erase those old Fs.

I agree.  I have a crappy transcript from 30 years ago.  But my transcripts from everything after that time/school are much better.  My UL courses are all A's and a couple of B's.  I would expect that if I applied to a master's program, they are going to see all of this and determine that I have matured and am not the same person now as I was in 1988.  If they don't, then I'm not real interested in that school/program.

It's much easier to focus on the future starting now and going towards your goal now.  The best way to do that is to talk to people at the school to see what they're looking for.  If they want you to go back and re-take courses from many years ago, rather than looking at the recent stuff you're doing, life experience, etc. then maybe they're a bit too boxed in and you want to look elsewhere.  There are a LOT of schools and programs out there, don't limit yourself.
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I can't thank you all enough for all of the great thoughts. It's been an emotional roller coaster, that's for sure. I really like the idea of reaching out to the grad school program early to make sure I'm headed down the right path.

(11-27-2020, 02:26 PM)dfrecore Wrote: And I still say a degree in Psych is not necessary for any of these.  Psych courses might be helpful, but not necessary.  Just something to think about.

I don't think I fully understand the benefits of completing BALA instead. Other than taking different classes, do you anticipate it would be less expensive, faster, and/or easier? I'm definitely interested in Psychology the most as far as subject matter, but if there are significant benefits in time, money or hassle I would consider the BALA. Thanks!
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