Harvard ManageMentor?

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Found in my companies online training that we have 28 of the HMM series course available at no cost to us. each one 2 hours. for a total of 56 hours business training.

I searched but found no reference to anyone accepting these as credits. Didn't expect to but does anyone have more info?

I realize that 56 hours technically only comprise of approx 5.6 cr. But if it were accepted, thats almost 2 full classes for free, and someone wanting to buy access to the HMM can get all 44 classes for $400. And again 88 hours is only approx 8.8 credits, but if it can be accepted as 9 credits thats only $44 a credit.

If not accepted now, how would we go about getting them accepted?

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I am not an expert, so if someone else has different information please feel free to correct me.

That said...

What calculation are you using? Normally it takes 15 contact hours to equal 1 semester credit hour. 88 hours would be 5.86 hours IF it was considered contact hours at all.

Also, a quick google suggests HMM provides CEU but is not ACE-reviewed for college credit. To be accepted for credit the courses would generally need to either be ACE-reviewed or a given college would need to review a course to consider it acceptable. Kind of like TESC partnering to accept FEMA credits.

For ACE credit the owning organization (Harvard Business Review?) has to submit the product for ACE review. ACE has reviewed SkillPort classes so the concept is not new. But again, unless I'm mistaken, HBR would need to submit the content for consideration. (and pay a fee??)

I think I got that right. If not someone please correct so I'm not giving out bad info.

5 minute education/history geek reading of the day: The Carnegie Unit and Student Hour explains how the Carnegie Foundation standardized high school and college education on the credit hour standard, and only provided pensions to schools that required 120 credits for a bachelor's. It also mandated four years for both high school and college.

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Thanks for the info.. I will have to contact HBR and see if they are planning to do the ace credit route anytime soon.

as for the hours conversion I thought I saw somewhere that CEUs to Credits was a 10:1 conversion. If it's 15:1 then at $400 to get almost 6 credits is still decent value.

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CEU != college credit. The two are completely different. 15 contact hours refers to interaction with an instructor, i.e. a class of some sort, online or off.

FYI from ACE: ACE | ACE CREDIT: Frequently-Asked Questions

What exactly is a CEU and can I get college credit for it?

A continuing education unit (CEU) is used to evaluate and measure participation in continuing education and learning activities. One CEU is provided for every 10 hours engaged in a learning activity. For instance, a 25-hour workshop would translate to 2.5 CEUs. These CEUs are not equivalent to college-level experience—they are used mostly to satisfy employer and state licensure and certification requirements. CEUs also may be helpful to document specific job-related skills.

It's confusing because ACE gives credit for some SkillPort CBTs, which sounds similar to HMM. There's no set rule, other than if ACE recommends it for credit you are generally good to go, but if not you are quite probably out of luck.

Again, I am not an expert, so if someone else can contradict this please chime in. And definitely talk to your advisor for certain.