Jumping off the deep end with EC

[Ralf1958]

I just put these in the EC credit bank (a few items), let's see where it leads.

I know they can't put all of them to effective use, but surely I can't be too far off from a BA...

BTW, all of the CLEPS/DSST's were taken "cold" except American History I and American Government. I was in Bosnia (US Army) and tested at a remote field office of the U of Maryland with no study materials. That was a tough way to do it...

CLEP
English Composition (without essay)* 6
Social Science and History 6
Natural Sciences 6
Humanities 6
Analysis and Interpretation of Literature 6
Freshman English 6
English Literature 6
American Government 3
Introductory Psychology 3
Human Growth and Development 3
Intro to Business Law 3
Principles of Marketing 3
American History I 3
American History II 3
History of the Vietnam War 3
Info Systems and Comp Applications 3

DSST
Art of the Western World 3
Intro to the Modern Middle East 3
Human Cultural Geography 3
Ethics in America 3
Civil War and Reconstruction 3
General Anthropology 3
Intro to World Religions 3
Intro to Law Enforcement 3
Criminal Justice 3
Here’s to Your Health 3
Enviro and Humanity (race to save planet) 3
Principles of Physical Science 3
Personnel Resource Management 3
Organizational Behavior 3
Principles of Supervision 3
Intro to Computers 3
Introduction to Business 3
Personal Finance 3
Management Info. Systems 3
Fundamentals of Counseling 3
Technical Writing 3
Business Math 3
Carpentry 3
General Automotive 3

ACE Transcript
Construction Site Preparation 12B30 3
Military Science 12B30 5
Construction Mat. and Methods 12B30 3
Personnel Supervision 12B30 5
Maintenance Management 12B30 3
Records and Info. Management 12B30 2
Machine Operation 12B30 10
Equipment Maintenance 12B30 10
Aircraft Maintenanec 67H10 3
Aircraft Maintenance Technology 67H10 3

Community College USAF (CCAF)
55252 Civil Engineering studies 3
43153 Aircraft Maintenance studies 6

TEEX (Texas A&M Engineering Extension
OSH511 Gen Industry Standards 3.1
OSH501 Train-the-Trainer 3.5
Hazardous Materials 3.5
Industrial Hygiene 3.5
Principles of Ergonomics 3.1
Machine Guarding 3.1
CPR, 1st Aid, AED Trainer 1.6
Hydrogen Sulfide Instructor 2.3
Accident Investigations 1.5
Permit Req. Confined Space 3.1
Excav., Trenching, Soil Mechanics 2.3

Central Texas College
Effective Communications 1
Personnel Effeciency Reports 1
Counseling Techniques 1
Management Planning 1

Indiana Vocational Tech College
Welding 3
Welding II 3

Midland Community College (Texas)
Alcohol and Drug Abuse 0.5
Respiratory Protection 0.5

[mightymouse]

Enroll and pick a degree you want to pursue, they will pick at that list and tell u what u have to finish.

Thanks alot of credits, good luck!

[NAP]

Welcome to the forum!

Wow you have a lot of credits! That is impressive that you earned so many on your own!

Here is a quick overview of what you need for a BA in Liberal Studies:

http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...#post59730

Just taking a quick look at your list:

I think you already have a depth in history.

I think you have the 12/12/9 credits you need for general education.

Just looking at your DSSTs, since I am not sure how your other credits will count, it looks like you are low in upper-level credits. Getting this will help if you still need to complete a second depth, too. If you want to choose a major or an area of focus, that will change your choices.

I think you will need freshman English (class or ECE), despite having both CLEPs, and information literacy.

I don’t know if business math counts towards the math requirement; you’ll need to check on that.

You definitely have an excellent start. Just be sure to find out exactly what you still need to complete your degree.

Let us know what they say so we can help you get this finished!

[alissaroot]

I think you will need freshman English (class or ECE), despite having both CLEPs, and information literacy.

Hey NAP! I just sent you a PM. I just wanted to add to your already excellent advice.

Uexcel now has ACE approval for their College Writing exam: ACE | National Guide Online | Browse The Guide and since it's way cheaper than the ECE, I thought it would bear mentioning. Looks like Excelsior students now can really test out of that composition requirement. It looks like the exam is two prompted essays with two hours to complete. Also, with this exam costing about $85, it is comparable in cost to the CLEPs and DSSTs--and offered in many of the same locations, so I'm recommending it! UExcel - College Credit by Exam

Additionally, I want to note that Business Math was considered Applied Professional /Free Elective for me, but I had taken it after I had already fulfilled my quantitative requirement. I still feel that it will most likely be considered applied professional. And here's a blank template to help for anyone who might need some guidance figuring out your own EC degree plan: http://www.degreeforum.net/62322-post10.html

Good luck!

[Ralf1958]

Wow. Thanks for the hints and information. I discovered this forum, and it was like an oasis of inside information and direction for me.

I really didn’t think Business Math would count for much. I actually look forward to taking more math classes, as that is my weakest spot in education. Realistically, I could study and manage to pass CLEP College Algebra… but still wouldn’t be very adept, so I want to take the classes. I saw in another thread that LSU has a few excellent (and apparently inexpensive) on-line math courses that will help boost me... while I test out of the other requirements to round out the requirements.

My biggest problem is I don’t know what those specific finishing requirements are yet… but hopefully I will soon.

I’ll be looking at the Uexcel English because of the price. Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t know it existed! I’m not very worried about English. It was always my best subject in school and easy for me. I don’t anticipate much of a problem in testing out of it at higher level.

Once again, I really appreciate comments and advice. I think I’ll start off in the direction of a Liberal Studies BS degree… and see where the spirit (or counselors) lead me. I’m flexible ideas, and I know most students change their major several times in route to their goals. I just want that diploma by Christmas ’10.

Now if you’ll excuse me… I’m off to look at the links that you all graciously provided!!!!

[NAP]

Thanks Alissa for the additional information!

I did not know about the UExcel exam for English; that is excellent news!

I love the template you put together for a BS in Liberal Studies; I’ll be sure to pass that around!

Ralf1958 –

Isn’t this place wonderful? I love it here!

For math, also consider the College Math CLEP and ALEKS.com.

Try Alissa’s template; that will help you to see where you stand. The guide to credit-by-exam will tell you which categories the CLEPs and DSSTs are considered.

Sounds like you have a great attitude about this and a reasonable time frame to accomplish your goal!

[alissaroot]

After I plugged in all your credits to that template I posted, here's where I think your credits may fall (Stuff colored purple is what I would think you still need):

General Education Requirements--9CR in two areas and 6CR in one area

Social Sciences & History, 6 or 9 Credits
Social Science and History 6
American Government 3

Natural Sciences & Mathematics, 6 or 9 Credits, at least 2 of which must be college-level math or statistics
Natural Sciences 6
CLEP College Mathematics

Humanities, 6 or 9 Credits
Humanities 6

ALSO

English Composition Requirement--3CR Written English
UExcel College Writing

Information Literacy--1CR Required
Penn Foster Information Literacy

Depth Requirement #1--12 CR in a single discipline, 3 at upper level
American History I 3
American History II 3
History of the Vietnam War 3
Civil War and Reconstruction 3

Depth Requirement #2--12 CR in a single discipline, 3 at upper level
Fundamentals of Counseling 3
Introductory Psychology 3
Human Growth and Development 3
ECE Psychology of Adulthood & Aging

OR Scoring above the 55th percentile on any GRE exam will fulfill a depth requirement.

You will need 15 more upper level credits in the Arts & Sciences
[COLOR="Purple"]ECE American Dream
DSST Rise & Fall of the Soviet Union
DSST Money & Banking
ECE Social Psychology[/COLOR]


Additional Upper Level Credits, you need nine--These can be Applied Professional/Free Elective
Management Info. Systems 3
[COLOR="Purple"]DSST Substance Abuse
DSST Business Law II[/COLOR]

Additional Arts & Sciences/Applied Professional/Free Electives--up to 60 Credits
You can take whatever you want to fill up the rest of your credits, as long as it does not duplicate what is listed above
Welding 3
Welding II 3)
Alcohol and Drug Abuse 0.5
Respiratory Protection 0.5
TEEX (Texas A&M Engineering Extension
OSH511 Gen Industry Standards 3.1
OSH501 Train-the-Trainer 3.5
Hazardous Materials 3.5
Industrial Hygiene 3.5
Principles of Ergonomics 3.1
Machine Guarding 3.1
CPR, 1st Aid, AED Trainer 1.6
Hydrogen Sulfide Instructor 2.3
Accident Investigations 1.5
Permit Req. Confined Space 3.1
Excav., Trenching, Soil Mechanics 2.3
ACE Transcript
Construction Site Preparation 12B30 3
Military Science 12B30 5
Construction Mat. and Methods 12B30 3
Personnel Supervision 12B30 5
Maintenance Management 12B30 3
Records and Info. Management 12B30 2
Machine Operation 12B30 10
Equipment Maintenance 12B30 10
Aircraft Maintenanec 67H10 3
Aircraft Maintenance Technology 67H10 3
55252 Civil Engineering studies 3
43153 Aircraft Maintenance studies 6
Business Math 3
Carpentry 3
General Automotive 3
Central Texas College
Effective Communications 1
Personnel Effeciency Reports 1
Counseling Techniques 1
Management Planning 1
English Composition (without essay)* 6
Analysis and Interpretation of Literature 6
Freshman English 6
English Literature 6
Intro to Business Law 3
Principles of Marketing 3
Info Systems and Comp Applications 3
Art of the Western World 3
Intro to the Modern Middle East 3
Human Cultural Geography 3
Ethics in America 3
General Anthropology 3
Intro to World Religions 3
Intro to Law Enforcement 3
Criminal Justice 3
Here’s to Your Health 3
Enviro and Humanity (race to save planet) 3
Personnel Resource Management 3
Organizational Behavior 3
Principles of Physical Science 3
Principles of Supervision 3
Intro to Computers 3
Introduction to Business 3
Personal Finance 3
Technical Writing 3

Hope that helps! There is also a new orientation requirement that I don't have listed in my plan, but it's free and provided through Excelsior when you enroll, so I didn't update for something that small.

You may want to apply and see if you can get a second depth in industrial management or something like that rather than doing a second depth in psychology, but I don't know enough to advise you on that so I put in the psychology depth instead. You may want to consult with an EC adviser about that! Good luck!

[Ralf1958]

I appreciate you taking the time to do that Alissa. Although it may be an educated guess, I'll wager it's pretty close.

The latest EC update for me is that they have received some of my transcripts, but not all. I'll be back to update as things develop.

You guys are just too cool! Thanks for the help. I don't feel so alone now!

Ralf

[Ralf1958]

Duplication... sorry

[Ralf1958]

I was a bit off, when I guessed that the Community College of the Air Force might award 55252 Civil Engineering studies (3 credits) and 43153 Aircraft Maintenance studies (6 credits).

I got my own copy of the transcript yesterday, and the following was listed:

PHE 1000 Physical Education/Awareness 4.00 sh
AMT1208 MFG Technical Manuals 1.00 sh
AMT1218 Airframe Sys/Components 4.00 sh
AMT1299 Intro Aircraft Maintenance 4.00 sh
AMT2264 Aircraft Entry level Maint 4.00 sh
INT5000 Journeyman (Internship) 4.00 sh

The question I have, is a semester hour the same as a credit hour to Excelsior? I have heard different opinions on this so far.

Let's hope the answer is "yes", and EC takes these 21 hours. I'll keep you posted.

Ralf