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I have a friend who is interested in doing TESC, but she had trouble during high school dual-enrollment. She has the following grades:
*Pre-calculus with/Trigonometry- F
*Intro to Psychology I- C
*Acting I- B
*Intro to Psychology II- F
*College Composition I- D
*College Composition II- W
She wants to know if her Psychology I, Acting, and College Composition I credits will transfer to TESC. If so, as what kind of credits.
Also, she wants to know if medical schools will see the remaining credits when she applies to one. Do the credits on the TESC transcript appear as transfer, or do they appear as residential credits?
I also have a question: If I take enough exams to reach the 120 credits needed for a Liberal Arts degree at TESC, do I not get a GPA? How does that work out?
Thanks all!
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This should answer most of your questions about GPA and transfer credits:
Thomas Edison State College/ New GPA Policy Announced
As to how the credits will apply that depends on what program she is in...they should count at least as electives. Any clarification on these should be easily found using the search feature on the TESC website.
Medical schools are applied to through an transcribing/application service,here is what they say about her question:
"AMCAS requires that official transcripts from all U.S. and Canadian post-secondary institutions are submitted, regardless of which school(s) accepted this credit. For example, if you take a summer course at a community college and transfers the work to your primary/home institution, AMCAS requires BOTH official transcripts; the one from the community college and the one from your regular year college, even if the community college course work also appears on your home institution transcript".
Long and short is whether TESC gives her credit or not to have any chance of getting into med school she will need to retake the Fs,the D and probably the C. She will probably need to retake these in a manner that her CC says will replace the old grade in her GPA.
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I have a friend who is interested in doing TESC, but she had trouble during high school dual-enrollment. She has the following grades:
*Pre-calculus with/Trigonometry- F
*Intro to Psychology I- C
*Acting I- B
*Intro to Psychology II- F
*College Composition I- D
*College Composition II- W
She wants to know if her Psychology I, Acting, and College Composition I credits will transfer to TESC. If so, as what kind of credits.>>
Yes on Psych and Acting- people here are getting mixed results with TESC taking D grades in transfer. You'll see people here who will tell you that TESC denied them, and others who say they were accepted.
Acting is probably a free elective, and psychology is social science.
Also, she wants to know if medical schools will see the remaining credits when she applies to one.
Yep. There is actually a data base that logs your college classes- someone here might have provided the link- or it was over on the distance learning board, but everything is tracked and you can be sure that her community college will send her entire transcript (not to mention these grades will be on her high school transcript). he failing grades will come up when she is required to provide transcripts for med school admission. Having the credit on a TESC degree transcript will not negate this process.
Do the credits on the TESC transcript appear as transfer, or do they appear as residential credits?
They will be transfer, and they will not be part of her GPA. My transfer grades are shown as "credit" without grades.
I also have a question: If I take enough exams to reach the 120 credits needed for a Liberal Arts degree at TESC, do I not get a GPA? How does that work out?
Any class, even one class, that is for a grade counts. So, your GPA is formed from any/all courses you take. I'm overstepping, but I'm a community college teacher so I want to help your friend. She needs to learn that a withdrawal is almost always obtainable- even at the very end of a semester. Community colleges are usually very flexible and understanding to a fault- if your grade is falling, WITHDRAWAL don't take the F. (I have been forced to allow a student to withdrawal after he failed my final exam!) She should go back and ask if she can withdrawal or erase her grades. When they tell her no, she needs to make an appointment to meet with the arts and science dean and explain her future plans and how the dual enrollment was too difficult- maybe her high school counselor pushed her into enrolling in classes she really wasn't ready for and now her future in med school is jeopardized and she wants a clean slate. I'd give her a 90% chance of getting those grades erased.
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cookderosa Wrote:I'm overstepping, but I'm a community college teacher so I want to help your friend. She needs to learn that a withdrawal is almost always obtainable- even at the very end of a semester. Community colleges are usually very flexible and understanding to a fault- if your grade is falling, WITHDRAWAL don't take the F. (I have been forced to allow a student to withdrawal after he failed my final exam!) She should go back and ask if she can withdrawal or erase her grades. When they tell her no, she needs to make an appointment to meet with the arts and science dean and explain her future plans and how the dual enrollment was too difficult- maybe her high school counselor pushed her into enrolling in classes she really wasn't ready for and now her future in med school is jeopardized and she wants a clean slate. I'd give her a 90% chance of getting those grades erased.[/B]
No way! No overstepping. Thank you for this information! She is emailing her Dean of Students now.
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I did some research before deciding to go with Excelsior and by most accounts, neither school will take D's anymore. They do take C minuses. The rationale they gave me is that to be allowed to be part of the Federal financial aid programs, they cannot transfer D's. EC said they accepted them until January '08 but no more. Maybe TESC is different but I'm pretty sure not. The C minuses or better should transfer without issue.
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It will be interesting to see what happens when she tries to get those grades pulled, having lived here my whole life, my experience is that the VCCS,like the state itself, is rather Draconian.
There is an official "Academic Renewal Policy"..but you need to be separated from the school for 5 years.
All the gory details are here:
Academic Renewal Petition Form
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That is not a good thing.
I'm hoping for the best.
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