NFA and ACE

[dondeal]

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I just learned about NFA. Not many topics came up in a search. I did read that courses Q118 and Q318 are Ace Approved and Excelsior will take them. Is this still accurate?

I found this at ACE:

Course Q118:
Self-Study Course for COMMUNITY Safey Educators
ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0149
Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
Version 1
Location: On USFA home page (Internet).
Length: Self-paced (average time 17.5 hours).
Dates: May 2000 – Present
Description: SELF-PACED (AVERAGE TIME 17.5 HRS.) Student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of COMMUNITY SAFETY education; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate COMMUNITY SAFETY education programs.
Objective: To teach fire and emergency service personnel how to do a better job of planning, implementing, and evaluating SAFETY programs, particularly in working with various people in the student's organization and within their COMMUNITY; to help students understand some of the basic concepts about how to get started with an organization's COMMUNITY SAFETY education programs; and to assist students with some tips and techniques on a variety of topics such as methods for locating partners to assist with COMMUNITY education or techniques for locating resources for SAFETY programs. The program is easy-reading, enjoyable and thought-provoking.
Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of COMMUNITY SAFETY education; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate COMMUNITY SAFETY education programs.
Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are an overview of COMMUNITY SAFETY education, identifying fire and injury problems, finding a partner, developing a coalition strategy, resources, implementation, and evaluation. Methods of instruction include exercises, case studies, learner presentations/reports, reading, a workbook, exercises, and final examination. The final examination is not proctored. NFA relies on its secure logon and password procedures for validity of student outcomes.
Credit Recommendation: In the vocational certificate or lower division baccalaureate/associate degree category, 1 semester hour in Fire Science, Adult Education, General Education, Public Health, or SAFETY Studies (8/01) (6/05)(9/09).

Course Q318:
FIRE SERVICE Supervision: Self Study
ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0145
Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
Version 2
Location: Nationwide over the USFA/NFA Web site home page.
Length: 13 hours (self-study).
Dates: July 2003 – Present
Description: 13 hours (self-study). Student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.
Objective: To introduce public safety SERVICEs managers and supervisors to principles and techniques of personal and personnel management.
Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.
Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are stress management, time management, interpersonal communications, employee motivation, counseling and coaching, conflict resolution, and group dynamics. Methods of instruction include case studies, computer-assisted instruction, individual activities. Method of evaluation includes self-tests and a final examination.
Credit Recommendation: In the vocational or lower division baccalaureate/associate category, 1 semester hour in Personnel or Human Resources Management, Business or Public Administration, Behavioral Science, FIRE Science, FIRE Administration, Law Enforcement, or Criminal Justice (7/03) (12/08).

[rickyjo]

I believe all of the big three take any credit that is ACE approved and these still are.

[nj593]

I believe all of the big three take any credit that is ACE approved and these still are.

LOL now we need to find out what NFA courses TESC takes because I can then take those for my missing electives...
If anyone out there has has nfa done through TESC let me know please thanks

[peace123]

LOL now we need to find out what NFA courses TESC takes because I can then take those for my missing electives...
If anyone out there has has nfa done through TESC let me know please thanks

I believe TESC takes these three NFA courses, I would verify this with an advisor.

NFA:
Q318, Q534 & Q118

[rickyjo]

I also read this information elsewhere and done all three under the assumption that this is the case.

[dondeal]

I just knocked out Q118 and Q318 in 2 hours, and was about to start Q534 but there's a probem. I couldn't find 'Course Q534' in ACE's database. NFA has the course with no ace credit and 0.6 CEUs, whereas, Q118 and Q318 have 1 ACE and 1.5 CEUs listed on NFA.

I don't think Q534 is ACE accredited now.

[creationstory]

how do you request a transcript and have 534 sent to TESC ?

thanks

[peace123]

I just knocked out Q118 and Q318 in 2 hours, and was about to start Q534 but there's a probem. I couldn't find 'Course Q534' in ACE's database. NFA has the course with no ace credit and 0.6 CEUs, whereas, Q118 and Q318 have 1 ACE and 1.5 CEUs listed on NFA.

I don't think Q534 is ACE accredited now.

Q534 is being accepted by TESC without it being listed for ACE credit, just like the FEMA's.

Excelsior is only accepting Q118 & Q318 because you can get them sent on an ACE transcript.



Peace123

[creationstory]

Q534 is being accepted by TESC without it being listed for ACE credit, just like the FEMA's.

Excelsior is only accepting Q118 & Q318 because you can get them sent on an ACE transcript.



Peace123

Hydraulic should work too


https://www.acenet.edu/transcripts/course.cfm?cid=74810

[rickyjo]

Holy crap, what is this? I see it on the ACE list, and it does say version two; however, when I try to sign up I get this info:

"Q-137 Hydraulic Calculations for Water-Based Fire Protection Systems Plan Review
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COURSE P137
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Revision: 1 - 02/23/2009 11:10 AM America/New York"

Is version two an in class only edition? I also want more information on this! I could use another NFA credit :-D

(Oh hey, I'm a "knight" now!)

EDIT: I noticed that on the ACE site it says "Length: Online Self-Study" so this is another NFA credit!!!! I think maybe "revision" and "version" are unrelated? I'm going to take it and find out unless somebody has any info! I'll know in a day or two!

Great find! Awesome find! Thanks a million!

I think a new thread should be created for this topic with a name that identifies the find so more people see it. Need somebody to confirm this is appropriate as it would technically be double posting.