New Year, New Beggining (Possibly).

[Thorne]

I have a hard time believing that even a good education in United States law would be acceptable for practicing law in a country with a completely different legal system, but admittedly I don't know anything about Greece's legal credentialing   

Uh, good luck with that.

I would assume that the degrees and/or credits could be brought over and evaluated like any other degree. So long as the individual has a law degree from a legit international university and can pass the bar, I doubt the ABA would throw a fit.

[Marcus Aurelius]

There are none that are ABA approved and you won't get any jobs with them, and you'd essentially be limited to practicing in California (but it wouldn't matter since you wouldn't get a job in the field anyway).

Yes, such a program does exist. It is not a prestigious school, necessarily, but it's still ABA accredited:

http://www.startribune.com/william-mitch...236314681/

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Syracuse University is also going to introduce an online JD in the near future...

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...-jd-degree

[jsd]

William Mitchell requires short annual residencies of a few days.

Syracuse has yet to get ABA approval but it appears they will also require residency.

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I have a hard time believing that even a good education in United States law would be acceptable for practicing law in a country with a completely different legal system, but admittedly I don't know anything about Greece's legal credentialing   

Uh, good luck with that.

I would assume that the degrees and/or credits could be brought over and evaluated like any other degree. So long as the individual has a law degree from a legit international university and can pass the bar, I doubt the ABA would throw a fit.

The ABA could care less about you taking your non-ABA credits to Greece, that's definitely true. You might be reading his/her plan backwards.

[Marcus Aurelius]

William Mitchell requires short annual residencies of a few days.

Syracuse has yet to get ABA approval but it appears they will also require residency.

Short residencies, yes, but the programs are primarily DL, which is an epic move for the ABA, which has historically been reluctant and slow to embrace DL.

[Aristotle S.]

So, A... Have you started yet? Did you get any credits from the previous year?  If not, get rolling with the free credits first.
I may have missed your initial post last year (which is strange, I usually read everything).  Anyways, get those General Education credits.  If you're starting from scratch at US ACE providers, it's a different story.

Does your local school provide AP/IB/A Levels or any college credit courses that are recognized?  If so, complete them and get it evaluated at ECE or WES for US equivalency.  Your choice to start can be two-fold.  If you have cheap credits available to grab free from Greek colleges/universities, do them and transfer into your US school of choice.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it's an "international transfer" loophole... to be able to transfer most, if not all courses for credit.  The number of credits will be the same or similar, complete the remainder of the requirements either using ACE credits or from the school you decide to attend.

No. There was some money but it was needed urgently elsewhere.

I dusted off some Maths and learned some new at Khan Academy and studied some Grammar also on Khan as well as from books.

Currently, the plan is to work my weak points (i.e English and Maths) by studying the available material on Saylor and other free sources until I sell some land to cover the expenses for a BS (lovely lot near the sea, drop me a PM if interested ).


I can't get into local public schools, they require to take the Pan-Greek exams and I really don't want to mess with that.
There are some private schools but these require that you stick with their program and commit fully. Not a bad thing, but they are also very expensive. A BS in Psychology will cost as much as a J.D.
So, no, I don't know of any local schools that let you do credits like in the US.

The loophole is like: 1. you get accepted into a school abroad, 2. you do some time there, then you come back and you automatically get into the respective Greek school by skipping the Pan-Greek exams because you are already a college/university student and not a high-school graduate.

If you have a degree and it is not fully recognized then you will be sent to the respective school to take whatever classes the committee deems that you need to take, usually last 2 or 3 semesters.
AFAIK, credits merely count as classes (Greece uses a different system). What you suggest could work in theory but I am not eager to put the Greek system to the test.

It will just be easier to get an actual degree. If the committee says that you need to take classes, you take classes. In both cases, you will probably need to give exams and the extra time can be invested in getting more familiar with the Greek terminology and learning how the Greek systems work. In the meantime, you have an actual degree and you might be able to work in the private sector if you do not need a government licence to practice.

[jsd]

William Mitchell requires short annual residencies of a few days.

Syracuse has yet to get ABA approval but it appears they will also require residency.

Short residencies, yes, but the programs are primarily DL, which is an epic move for the ABA, which has historically been reluctant and slow to embrace DL.

The question was specifically about programs that did not require travel, so these programs don't meet their needs. I like what William Mitchell and Syracuse are doing and it's a great step forward. But it's not relevant to this person's situation. There are no ABA approved online programs that you can avoid travel for (unless you live in St Paul, or in the future, Syracuse)

[Aristotle S.]

William Mitchell requires short annual residencies of a few days.

Syracuse has yet to get ABA approval but it appears they will also require residency.

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I have a hard time believing that even a good education in United States law would be acceptable for practicing law in a country with a completely different legal system, but admittedly I don't know anything about Greece's legal credentialing   

Uh, good luck with that.

I would assume that the degrees and/or credits could be brought over and evaluated like any other degree. So long as the individual has a law degree from a legit international university and can pass the bar, I doubt the ABA would throw a fit.

The ABA could care less about you taking your non-ABA credits to Greece, that's definitely true. You might be reading his/her plan backwards.

I think that jsd meant whatever equivalent to the BAR Greece has and not the actual US BAR.
In that case, yes, the ABA is unimportant. It is up to the committee appointed by the Greek government to recognize the full degree or classes (credits) off it.
If the degree is legit, the worst case senario is that you will be sent to the Greek Law School to do 2-3 semesters. Not a big deal, you only have to worry about transportation fees and coffee.

[jsd]

You should check with the committee to see if they will recognize a legal degree that is for the most part unrecognized in the US before spending four years in the program.

[Marcus Aurelius]

[/quote]The question was specifically about programs that did not require travel, so these programs don't meet their needs. I like what William Mitchell and Syracuse are doing and it's a great step forward. But it's not relevant to this person's situation. There are no ABA approved online programs that you can avoid travel for (unless you live in St Paul, or in the future, Syracuse)
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I respectfully disagree that this is not relevant to the person's situation. There are some occasions where if a person can get MOST of what he/she is looking for, then it's good enough. Perhaps the OP will reject these programs because they require short residencies. But then again, after taking some time to consider the options, the OP might just think, "you know what, maybe that's something that will work after all." You never know.

It is good to present a variety of options to someone who is contemplating a major investment, like a degree program, even if the options are not entirely a match for the criteria presented.

[jsd]

They live in Greece and can not travel here. The only stipulations presented were no travel. So this doesn't meet "most" of their needs, it meets zero.

a J.D if there is an online option that does not involve travelling; travelling simply does not fit the budget, let alone staying there and studying.