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Study.com Statistics - Do formulas need to be memorized?
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rowan555 Wrote:Wow, really? My son is just starting Statistics at Straighterline - the first of 5 tests was 80% math problems, 20% concepts. If he fails the course I may encourage him to try the Study.com version. Hoping it doesn't come to that, though.

Yeah that's how the final practice test looks at least. The quiz questions are often quite difficult (at least for me), but the quiz questions alternate between college level statistics and elementary schoool. You'll get one collge level lesson and then the next lesson will be like 5th grade math. It's so spuratic and weird.
I should be taking the real test in a couple days so I will definitely let you know how that goes.
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gremlinbrawler Wrote:Yeah that's how the final practice test looks at least. The quiz questions are often quite difficult (at least for me), but the quiz questions alternate between college level statistics and elementary schoool. You'll get one collge level lesson and then the next lesson will be like 5th grade math. It's so spuratic and weird.
I should be taking the real test in a couple days so I will definitely let you know how that goes.

Please do - thanks! My son has only taken the first test on SL, but at least that one was the same way in terms of difficulty variation - 2 of the 20 questions involved calculating a mean from a list of 5 2 digit numbers. Then those would be followed up with complex standard deviation related questions. I told him the chapters are going to get much harder, so he needs to hope some of those middle school questions will show up on the final.
Here Researching for my son, who has done the following:
Community College: Intro to Philosophy, Fundamentals of IT, English Comp 1
Saylor: Intro to Business, Principles of  Marketing, Corporate Communication
Shmoop: US History 2 (WGU won't accept this)
ALEKS: Int. Algebra, College Algebra
Study.com: Personal Finance, Principles of Finance, HR Management, Global Business, Advanced Operations Management
Straighterline: US History 2, Environmental Science, US History, Microeconomics, Macroeconomics, English Comp 2, Principles of Management, Business Law, Business Ethics, Psychology, Organizational Behavior, Accounting 1,Communication, Managerial Accounting, Statistics
Ed4Credit: Managing Information Systems
Sophia: Project Management
WGU: Bachelors in HR Management 

Second son is currently attending Penn Foster for his high school diploma, then on to Ashworth for An Associates in Criminal Justice
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rowan555 Wrote:Please do - thanks! My son has only taken the first test on SL, but at least that one was the same way in terms of difficulty variation - 2 of the 20 questions involved calculating a mean from a list of 5 2 digit numbers. Then those would be followed up with complex standard deviation related questions. I told him the chapters are going to get much harder, so he needs to hope some of those middle school questions will show up on the final.

Okay so I took the test yesterday and I would say it was really quite easy. It definitely didn't feel college level. None of the really long formulas needed to be memorized, but some of the shorter ones did come up, although I didn't always remember how to do them. There were lots of simple questions asking you to find the mean, median and mean from a list, and many other super easy "free" questions. Definitely have a good understanding of the section that teaches you the likelyhood of events happening together - in order and out of order. For example the likelyhood of rolling two fives in a row on a die. But once you learn how to do that from their lessons it's not very complicated.
Be warrned, the lessons are very difficult but the actual test is not nearly as hard! If you can get through the quizzes then the final should be a breeze. However the final practice tests was a bit easier than the real final. The practice final had several 5th grade questions, with a few real ones thrown in, it was like some kind of joke. The real final was pretty easy but not laughable liek the practice test.
For reference I got 72% on the practice final, and 47/70 on the real final so about 67%. This exam only had 70 questions unlike the usual 100 on study.com and you still have two hours to complete them. When I submitted my test I thought I had failed for a second because it said 47 points - but that was out of 70 not the usual 100 so I passed. I'm 21 but I really struggle with math so if I can do it, anyone can! It took me about 4, 8 hour days to study.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Good luck.
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Thanks so much! My son is probably going to fail SL's stats - it would likely take him a full semester at a brick and mortar school to really "get it" - and honestly, he has neither the need nor the desire to go through that. I may sign him up for the $40 a month (or whatever is it) Study.com so he can take his time going through the lessons for stats and project management, then he can take the finals later on when we upgrade his subscription.This whole "rush through it with the 10 days left on your SL membership" plan just is NOT working.
Here Researching for my son, who has done the following:
Community College: Intro to Philosophy, Fundamentals of IT, English Comp 1
Saylor: Intro to Business, Principles of  Marketing, Corporate Communication
Shmoop: US History 2 (WGU won't accept this)
ALEKS: Int. Algebra, College Algebra
Study.com: Personal Finance, Principles of Finance, HR Management, Global Business, Advanced Operations Management
Straighterline: US History 2, Environmental Science, US History, Microeconomics, Macroeconomics, English Comp 2, Principles of Management, Business Law, Business Ethics, Psychology, Organizational Behavior, Accounting 1,Communication, Managerial Accounting, Statistics
Ed4Credit: Managing Information Systems
Sophia: Project Management
WGU: Bachelors in HR Management 

Second son is currently attending Penn Foster for his high school diploma, then on to Ashworth for An Associates in Criminal Justice
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rowan555 Wrote:Thanks so much! My son is probably going to fail SL's stats - it would likely take him a full semester at a brick and mortar school to really "get it" - and honestly, he has neither the need nor the desire to go through that. I may sign him up for the $40 a month (or whatever is it) Study.com so he can take his time going through the lessons for stats and project management, then he can take the finals later on when we upgrade his subscription.This whole "rush through it with the 10 days left on your SL membership" plan just is NOT working.

In another thread about E4C, this was the point I was trying to make. With a 20% discount, the course would cost $156 and he would have 4 months to complete the course. As far as the MIS course goes, it is an UL course and by all rights you should take Intro to IS before taking MIS. Also, there IS a practice final that you can take up to 3 times. I haven't taken their stats course, but I assume it would be similar.
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KenJ Wrote:In another thread about E4C, this was the point I was trying to make. With a 20% discount, the course would cost $156 and he would have 4 months to complete the course. As far as the MIS course goes, it is an UL course and by all rights you should take Intro to IS before taking MIS. Also, there IS a practice final that you can take up to 3 times. I haven't taken their stats course, but I assume it would be similar.

My son took fundamentals of information systems at community college and MIS via Ed4Credit. I'm kind of on the fence about Stats at Study.com versus Ed4Credit - mainly because for all I know, Ed4Credit's stats course is much harder than Study's. He just wants to check that damned box.
Here Researching for my son, who has done the following:
Community College: Intro to Philosophy, Fundamentals of IT, English Comp 1
Saylor: Intro to Business, Principles of  Marketing, Corporate Communication
Shmoop: US History 2 (WGU won't accept this)
ALEKS: Int. Algebra, College Algebra
Study.com: Personal Finance, Principles of Finance, HR Management, Global Business, Advanced Operations Management
Straighterline: US History 2, Environmental Science, US History, Microeconomics, Macroeconomics, English Comp 2, Principles of Management, Business Law, Business Ethics, Psychology, Organizational Behavior, Accounting 1,Communication, Managerial Accounting, Statistics
Ed4Credit: Managing Information Systems
Sophia: Project Management
WGU: Bachelors in HR Management 

Second son is currently attending Penn Foster for his high school diploma, then on to Ashworth for An Associates in Criminal Justice
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Yeah ED4credit could be a great option too, that would have been my second choice. That one might be good if he just cannot get through the quizzes. Like I said the real test is child's play compared to the quiz lessons but you still have to complete them. That's a great idea to start with the basic membership. I wonder if the quiz attempts "count" as your 3 tries when you have the basic account and switch to the testing account or if they "reset". That might be a good thing to look into if you don't already know the answer to that because in case you didn't know, with study.com the highest of your first 3 quiz attempts affect your overall grade. I also would think that if your attempts/scores "reset' when you upgrade your account then you would have to do them all again maybe? Probably look into that if you don't already know how that works.
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