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(10-02-2018, 02:22 PM)ISKBizz15 Wrote: A little more than a week ago, glad to hear they updated it. I'll take another look at it then.
As far as I know it hasn't been updated within the past week... What courses is Study.com showing as 300/400 on that equivalency guide that got rejected as UL?
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(10-02-2018, 02:24 PM)jsd Wrote: (10-02-2018, 02:22 PM)ISKBizz15 Wrote: A little more than a week ago, glad to hear they updated it. I'll take another look at it then.
As far as I know it hasn't been updated within the past week... What courses is Study.com showing as 300/400 on that equivalency guide that got rejected as UL?
Psychology 315: Psychology of Motivation
Psychology 302: Cognitive Psychology
Sorry, I took another look at the degree plan that I put together and just realized that I got the course codes mixed up between TESU and Study.com, my mistake. Those are definitely LL courses and not UL.
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That explains it 
Thanks.
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Anyone taken the CJ course before? I wonder how hard it is. Shows 2 assignments.
Criminal Justice 305: The Juvenile Justice System
Blah, really wish there were easier course options for UL.
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Yes. The course number on study.com is not the sole indicator of whether it is UL or LL. For example, Physiological Psychology is graded as a 300 Level course on study.com, but only fulfills the LL requirements at TESU.
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(10-03-2018, 12:05 AM)Supermind Wrote: Yes. The course number on study.com is not the sole indicator of whether it is UL or LL. For example, Physiological Psychology is graded as a 300 Level course on study.com, but only fulfills the LL requirements at TESU.
The course number on Study.com is their own assessment of the course difficulty and equivalency. If it is 300 series, then Study.com intended it to be an upper-level course, but ACE and/or NCCRS didn't agree and gave it a lower-division recommendation. Thus TESU did as well.
It is possible that Study.com may revise a course and resubmit it to ACE/NCCRS but I assume there is a cost associated with that so it doesn't happen often, if at all. They are working on new UL courses but I'm sure they're taking their time to ensure they can meet the ACE UL requirements the first time.
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(10-03-2018, 12:52 AM)Merlin Wrote: (10-03-2018, 12:05 AM)Supermind Wrote: Yes. The course number on study.com is not the sole indicator of whether it is UL or LL. For example, Physiological Psychology is graded as a 300 Level course on study.com, but only fulfills the LL requirements at TESU.
The course number on Study.com is their own assessment of the course difficulty and equivalency. If it is 300 series, then Study.com intended it to be an upper-level course, but ACE and/or NCCRS didn't agree and gave it a lower-division recommendation. Thus TESU did as well.
It is possible that Study.com may revise a course and resubmit it to ACE/NCCRS but I assume there is a cost associated with that so it doesn't happen often, if at all. They are working on new UL courses but I'm sure they're taking their time to ensure they can meet the ACE UL requirements the first time.
It's actually been done multiple times at Study.com - a course has been resubmitted and upgraded to UL.
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(10-02-2018, 09:04 AM)dfrecore Wrote: (10-02-2018, 12:38 AM)MrsBulletPoints Wrote: On TESU's website in a chart showing how you can transfer 90 credits from Study.com for a BA in Liberal Studies, it lists in the 300-400 level section these Study.com courses with their corresponding TESU equivalents. Note that only one of these has a 300 level code name at either place. Yet they are all listed as fulfilling the 300-400 level requirement:
STUDY.COM ------------------------------------------ TESU
Business 113: Business Communication ----------------- COM-202: Intro to Business Communication
History 308: Causes & Effects of the Vietnam War ----- HIS-351: A History of the Vietnam War
Psychology 105: Research Methods in Psychology ------ PSY-229: Intro to Research Methods
Psychology 106: Abnormal Psychology ------------------- PSY-235: Intro to Abnormal Psychology
Psychology 104: Social Psychology ----------------------- PSY-237: Intro to Social Psychology
This is what it reads at TESU https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies
This chart is informational in nature and designed to help prospective students see how up to 90 credits from Study.com courses may be applied to the BA degree with an area of study in Liberal Studies at Thomas Edison State University. It is not an official academic evaluation. Credits earned via Study.com courses must be submitted to the University via an official Study.com transcript for credit to be awarded.
I understand the need for an evaluation regarding courses coming in, but it seems to me that it should be clear cut whether a TESU course is upper level or not. This chart https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies makes it seem as if these 200 named courses at TESU would fit the upper level credit slots -- meaning I could take them at TESU and meet this requirement.
Any one know anything about this?
The way to know if something comes in as UL is by looking at the "TESU Equivalency." If the TESU equivalency is a 300-level or 400-level course, then it's UL. There are quite a few Study.com courses that are 300-level or 400-level per their own course numbering system, but were not ACE/NCCRS approved as UL. So you cannot use those to figure out if they will work or not. You can only use TESU's numbering.
The other way to know is to look the course up on ACE/NCCRS. If it says it will come in as UL, then it would normally come in as UL at any school. TESU follows ACE recommendations pretty closely.
Yeah that's what I thought too, but then why does TESU have these listed at the TESU website in a degree requirement table under Area of Study 300-400 level courses? Maybe, I'm misreading it.... I tried to paste a screenshot but it doesn't work. https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies.
I'll assume it's out of date as someone mentioned and check with ACE as many have said. That's the safest route.
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(10-13-2018, 02:24 PM)MrsBulletPoints Wrote: (10-02-2018, 09:04 AM)dfrecore Wrote: (10-02-2018, 12:38 AM)MrsBulletPoints Wrote: On TESU's website in a chart showing how you can transfer 90 credits from Study.com for a BA in Liberal Studies, it lists in the 300-400 level section these Study.com courses with their corresponding TESU equivalents. Note that only one of these has a 300 level code name at either place. Yet they are all listed as fulfilling the 300-400 level requirement:
STUDY.COM ------------------------------------------ TESU
Business 113: Business Communication ----------------- COM-202: Intro to Business Communication
History 308: Causes & Effects of the Vietnam War ----- HIS-351: A History of the Vietnam War
Psychology 105: Research Methods in Psychology ------ PSY-229: Intro to Research Methods
Psychology 106: Abnormal Psychology ------------------- PSY-235: Intro to Abnormal Psychology
Psychology 104: Social Psychology ----------------------- PSY-237: Intro to Social Psychology
This is what it reads at TESU https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies
This chart is informational in nature and designed to help prospective students see how up to 90 credits from Study.com courses may be applied to the BA degree with an area of study in Liberal Studies at Thomas Edison State University. It is not an official academic evaluation. Credits earned via Study.com courses must be submitted to the University via an official Study.com transcript for credit to be awarded.
I understand the need for an evaluation regarding courses coming in, but it seems to me that it should be clear cut whether a TESU course is upper level or not. This chart https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies makes it seem as if these 200 named courses at TESU would fit the upper level credit slots -- meaning I could take them at TESU and meet this requirement.
Any one know anything about this?
The way to know if something comes in as UL is by looking at the "TESU Equivalency." If the TESU equivalency is a 300-level or 400-level course, then it's UL. There are quite a few Study.com courses that are 300-level or 400-level per their own course numbering system, but were not ACE/NCCRS approved as UL. So you cannot use those to figure out if they will work or not. You can only use TESU's numbering.
The other way to know is to look the course up on ACE/NCCRS. If it says it will come in as UL, then it would normally come in as UL at any school. TESU follows ACE recommendations pretty closely.
Yeah that's what I thought too, but then why does TESU have these listed at the TESU website in a degree requirement table under Area of Study 300-400 level courses? Maybe, I'm misreading it.... I tried to paste a screenshot but it doesn't work. https://www.tesu.edu/studycom/ba-degree-...al-studies.
I'll assume it's out of date as someone mentioned and check with ACE as many have said. That's the safest route.
Thanks for the help!
Apparently TESU didn't update that page when they changed their course equivalencies. I wouldn't use it at all, it's outdated and there are tons more courses now then when this page was done.
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More courses yes. but those courses were clearly easier in the 100 level. Wish I started this last year!
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