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Greetings Everyone!
I am a first-timer on this site. I have been lovingly lurking through several posts, comments, and boards, and I have finally decided to create my own.
By the Spring of 2022, I will complete my associate's degree in business administration with a small business management certificate. I also have a certificate from CSUEB extension for project management (this certificate also includes 23 hours for CAPM).
I have been searching the internet to find a cost-efficient way to complete my bachelor's in business administration with a concentration or minor in project management. I have been researching several colleges that provide that degree. The two that stand out the most are SNHU and UMPI.
My questions to you all would be:
-What would be the best cost-efficient route?
-Am I missing any additional lower-level classes?
-With all or majority of my completed courses suffice the prerequisites?
-Would anyone design a course plan for UMPI?
-If I decide on UMPI, can I have a double major?
----i.e., project management and accounting for project management and supply chain management
---- I am willing to pay the extra associated fees with double majors
I will attach a spreadsheet with my completed courses. By the end of Spring 2022, I will have 118 credits towards my bachelor's.
I appreciate the help. Thank you!
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(01-02-2022, 03:18 AM)o0pinay0o Wrote: Greetings Everyone!
I am a first-timer on this site. I have been lovingly lurking through several posts, comments, and boards, and I have finally decided to create my own.
By the Spring of 2022, I will complete my associate's degree in business administration with a small business management certificate. I also have a certificate from CSUEB extension for project management (this certificate also includes 23 hours for CAPM).
I have been searching the internet to find a cost-efficient way to complete my bachelor's in business administration with a concentration or minor in project management. I have been researching several colleges that provide that degree. The two that stand out the most are SNHU and UMPI.
My questions to you all would be:
-What would be the best cost-efficient route?
-Am I missing any additional lower-level classes?
-With all or majority of my completed courses suffice the prerequisites?
-Would anyone design a course plan for UMPI?
-If I decide on UMPI, can I have a double major?
----i.e., project management and accounting for project management and supply chain management
---- I am willing to pay the extra associated fees with double majors
I will attach a spreadsheet with my completed courses. By the end of Spring 2022, I will have 118 credits towards my bachelor's.
I appreciate the help. Thank you! 
Most cost efficient route? UMPI, hands-down. SNHU is way, WAY too expensive in comparison to UMPI.
Missing LL classes: At a glance, I don't see any foreign language. If you're fluent in something, that's easily remedied by taking an ACTFL exam. If you only know English, InstantCert for Spanish.
Looking deeper, I don't see English Comp at all, but that's okay. UMPI's is easy; don't bother taking it elsewhere if you don't have to. So, you'll have learning objective 1 fully covered once you take those at UMPI. I think you take learning objective 2D (HUM103) through UMPI. I don't think there's an easy equivalent elsewhere. 2E should be met through your "Asians thru Film" class, otherwise it would be either Art History I or II at Sophia. Art History should be very fast, so you might want to take one anyway, assuming you don't run out of time. 3D, take Environmental Science at Sophia. I don't see anything on your list that will work for 5A; you need either Approaches to Studying Religions or Intro to Sociology from Sophia. I'm not sure about 5D; your ethics course might or might not cover that. 5E would be American Government @ InstantCert.
I have no idea about your non-GEC requirements. Hopefully, someone else can chime in if I missed something otherwise obvious.
If you're self-funding, yes, you can easily get multiple majors/degrees. If you're doing that, you might want to bring in a few courses from SDC if you can because I don't think anything you have is UL. Or you can just take everything at UMPI. Whatever is easiest for you.
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(01-02-2022, 07:17 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I'm not sure about 5D; your ethics course might or might not cover that.
5D should be met by PHI 102: Ethics and Contemporary Society. According to the transfer guide, it's equivalent to PHI 152: Introduction to Ethics at UMPI.
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You won't have a double major. A double major would be the BABA degree and the BA in Criminal Justice as an example. You can complete multiple concentrations and minors in the BABA program. It will take you longer as every course isn't offered every session and some have prereqs.
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@OP, my filipina friend, I wouldn't worry about a degree being a BA vs a BS, it's pretty much the same degree major. I also would recommend UMPI as I think that's the only one of the Competency Based degree options that provide a Project Management concentration! It is much better than the BLS with multiple minors... It's also cheaper than SNHU!
Furthermore, you have enough credits for transfer at 118, I would just apply to UMPI and transfer everything, take the remaining from them. If you're not extremely busy with commitments, you should be able to complete the last 10 courses or so with them, as you need 30 credits residency, no other transfer ins, no if-and-or-buts about that requirement...
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01-02-2022, 01:45 PM
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For the BABA/PM degree:
For the GEC:
You took ENGL1A: Composition & Reading, which should count at Comp I
You took ENGL5: Critical Thinking in Reading & Writing, which should count as Comp II
I show that you need a Biological Science course (no lab) - I'd do Sophia's Human Biology
You need a foreign language, I'd do ICC's Spanish
You need 5E Civic Knowledge - I'd do ICC's American Government
For the core & PM concentration:
You took CIS1: Intro to CIS, I'm not sure if that will clear BUS200 or BUS244, maybe someone on here can chime in
You took BUS210: Fund of Project Management, I think that you can ask for that not to be used, since you'll need BUS141 to continue on to the other PM courses (you use a project from this course towards subsequent courses)
Study.com's BUS 304: Leading Organizational Change will count for BUS240
Study.com's BUS 312: Advanced Operations Management will count for BUS415
That leaves you with 12 courses to take at UMPI for the degree, which is doable in 2-3 terms.
Adding the Accounting Concentration, you can take ACC 201: Intermediate Accounting I, ACC 202: Intermediate Accounting II and ACC 302: Advanced Accounting at Study.com leaving 5 courses in the concentration to complete.
Adding the Supply Chain Concentration, the 2 SDC courses from the PM degree will work in that concentration, leaving 6 courses to complete.
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(01-02-2022, 01:27 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Furthermore, you have enough credits for transfer at 118, I would just apply to UMPI and transfer everything, take the remaining from them. If you're not extremely busy with commitments, you should be able to complete the last 10 courses or so with them, as you need 30 credits residency, no other transfer ins, no if-and-or-buts about that requirement...
I have to disagree mildly with this. 118 is a lot of credits, but it doesn't help if they don't fill degree requirements. And there are definitely some GEC requirements missing. Better to spend the next couple of months filling out remaining GEC requirements at Sophia & InstantCert than wind up spending an extra session at UMPI when that could have been avoided.
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(01-02-2022, 01:45 PM)dfrecore Wrote: For the BABA/PM degree:
For the GEC:
You took ENGL1A: Composition & Reading, which should count at Comp I
You took ENGL5: Critical Thinking in Reading & Writing, which should count as Comp II
I show that you need a Biological Science course (no lab) - I'd do Sophia's Human Biology
You need a foreign language, I'd do ICC's Spanish
You need 5E Civic Knowledge - I'd do ICC's American Government
For the core & PM concentration:
You took CIS1: Intro to CIS, I'm not sure if that will clear BUS200 or BUS244, maybe someone on here can chime in
You took BUS210: Fund of Project Management, I think that you can ask for that not to be used, since you'll need BUS141 to continue on to the other PM courses (you use a project from this course towards subsequent courses)
Study.com's BUS 304: Leading Organizational Change will count for BUS240
Study.com's BUS 312: Advanced Operations Management will count for BUS415
That leaves you with 12 courses to take at UMPI for the degree, which is doable in 2-3 terms.
Adding the Accounting Concentration, you can take ACC 201: Intermediate Accounting I, ACC 202: Intermediate Accounting II and ACC 302: Advanced Accounting at Study.com leaving 5 courses in the concentration to complete.
Adding the Supply Chain Concentration, the 2 SDC courses from the PM degree will work in that concentration, leaving 6 courses to complete.
If one is going into the PM concentration or minor they want to take BUS141 at UMPI. You create a project template in that class for your Final Assessment that you will use again in BUS400 and BUS401. Do not take PM outside of UMPI. You'll be happy you didn't. You also won't learn PMI on Sophia or Study.com which you'll need for BUS400 & BUS401.
Everyone must complete at least 30 credits at UMPI and the vast majority of the UL's have to be completed at UMPI. Many people forget that last bit.
Also the YourPace degrees are ALL BA's. There is not a BS. There's a BLS.
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(01-02-2022, 01:27 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Furthermore, you have enough credits for transfer at 118, I would just apply to UMPI and transfer everything, take the remaining from them. If you're not extremely busy with commitments, you should be able to complete the last 10 courses or so with them, as you need 30 credits residency, no other transfer ins, no if-and-or-buts about that requirement...
I personally would not recommend this, as it's not the number of credits you transfer in, but which ones you have left to complete that matter. Since you have things that would be easy to complete via alt-credit, you're much better off doing that than using up time for things like bio science and foreign language, which will eat up precious time in your degree. There are a lot of courses in the core/concentration that cannot be done elsewhere, so you're going to need the time to do all of those (at least 12 courses I think).
I would also advise completing a single concentration, and then seeing how much time you have left in the term before making any decisions. It's easy to say "I'm going to do 3 concentrations" and then come to the end of a term and find that you have 1/3 of each completed, and now you HAVE to do another term. Instead, you're much better off coming to the end and having the degree plus a single concentration done, and being able to decide at that point whether another concentration is worth the time, money, and effort to complete.
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(01-02-2022, 02:07 PM)dfrecore Wrote: (01-02-2022, 01:27 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Furthermore, you have enough credits for transfer at 118, I would just apply to UMPI and transfer everything, take the remaining from them. If you're not extremely busy with commitments, you should be able to complete the last 10 courses or so with them, as you need 30 credits residency, no other transfer ins, no if-and-or-buts about that requirement...
I personally would not recommend this, as it's not the number of credits you transfer in, but which ones you have left to complete that matter. Since you have things that would be easy to complete via alt-credit, you're much better off doing that than using up time for things like bio science and foreign language, which will eat up precious time in your degree. There are a lot of courses in the core/concentration that cannot be done elsewhere, so you're going to need the time to do all of those (at least 12 courses I think).
I would also advise completing a single concentration, and then seeing how much time you have left in the term before making any decisions. It's easy to say "I'm going to do 3 concentrations" and then come to the end of a term and find that you have 1/3 of each completed, and now you HAVE to do another term. Instead, you're much better off coming to the end and having the degree plus a single concentration done, and being able to decide at that point whether another concentration is worth the time, money, and effort to complete.
As someone who has graduated from UMPI and completed 3 minors I agree with EVERYTHING dfrecore says. Yes, I graduated with 3 minors. But I finished each one before adding another one. You also have to work with the course schedule. The schedule does change and every course isn't available in every term. There are prereqs for some courses as well. If another minor meant an additional term, I would not have completed it. I had only planned on completing the MIS minor when I applied. In my second term I added the PM minor because I loved the PM course. I added the Management minor in my third and final term because I only needed 1 more class to complete it. I had to take 4 courses in 1 session to keep my financial aid package in tact. I didn't want to lose any of my PELL grant. I only had 2 courses remaining for my degree requirements at that point.
Also spend your money and time on Sophia, Study.com, and InstantCert to get the GEC and other LL courses out of the way. The only courses I recommend completing at UMPI are the English Comp reqs and Project Management. I would spend my time and money on the UL courses at UMPI. You'll need to complete most of your UL courses at UMPI anyway as this is a requirement of theirs. Good luck!
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