ENEB Double/Triple Master’s??

[bjcheung77]

Basically, I purchased several ENEB offerings just to get more knowledge (if any) in subject matter that I wanted to fill learning gaps in.  These are mainly all business, leadership, management, strategy all bundled into an intro model.  Think of these as the crash courses for MBA, whatever their offerings are, etc... It's not going to be a full blown Masters degree as it's missing the thesis requirement, technically, it should be regarded a graduate cert or diploma bridging program, not a full degree... I always highly recommend supplementing ENEB with extra certs, degree, experience...

Do they still offer the NLP?

As a class, yes. As a degree path, no.

[chopliver2]

I know this question has probably come up before, but I’ve been reading through so many pages and posts that I’m honestly getting overwhelmed and more confused than when I started.

I’m really interested in the ENEB double master’s program. I like that it’s self-paced and seems really affordable, which works great for me since I’m working full time. But my main concern is whether this degree can actually be used or evaluated as a master’s in the U.S. My goal is to be able to say that I have a master’s degree, especially since I’m working toward a leadership role in healthcare and that credential could really help. I’m not expecting Ivy League recognition, but I do want something that at least counts and could be respected by employers.

If it’s just for personal development and doesn’t really carry weight professionally, I’m not sure it’s worth the time or money even if it is low cost. Speaking of which, does anyone know if there’s a cheaper way to get the ENEB program than what’s being advertised right now?

Also, if anyone here knows of a legit online master’s program in business or healthcare administration that is affordable, accepted in the U.S., and ideally flexible or self-paced, that is below 10k and achieved in 4 months or lesser, I’d love some guidance. I know this has been talked about before but there’s just so much out there that it’s starting to feel like information overload. I just need it for work pay increase too. Thanks!

You have less than a 50/50 chance of ENEB getting recognized as a masters here in the US. Your best shot is with Validential, but even that is hit or miss. Most of the time ENEB gets recognized as a mere graduate certificate or as a foreign bachelor's degree.

If you need a fast and cheap US masters, I recommend you look at UMPI, TESU, WGU, or HAU. Depending on what you do in healthcare, the MA in Organizational Leadership from UMPI, MHA from WGU, or the MBA from HAU might be your best bet. All three can be done in less than 2 years.

The Hellenic American University MBA is the cheapest, at less than 5,000 total.

You're wrong about a lot here—so let's unpack. ENEB will certainly be evaluated as a Master's from Validential, furthermore MAOL would be the cheapest from UMPI if it can be done in one term, especially if transferring credits(ENEB).

[turbotortuga]

I know this question has probably come up before, but I’ve been reading through so many pages and posts that I’m honestly getting overwhelmed and more confused than when I started.

I’m really interested in the ENEB double master’s program. I like that it’s self-paced and seems really affordable, which works great for me since I’m working full time. But my main concern is whether this degree can actually be used or evaluated as a master’s in the U.S. My goal is to be able to say that I have a master’s degree, especially since I’m working toward a leadership role in healthcare and that credential could really help. I’m not expecting Ivy League recognition, but I do want something that at least counts and could be respected by employers.

If it’s just for personal development and doesn’t really carry weight professionally, I’m not sure it’s worth the time or money even if it is low cost. Speaking of which, does anyone know if there’s a cheaper way to get the ENEB program than what’s being advertised right now?

Also, if anyone here knows of a legit online master’s program in business or healthcare administration that is affordable, accepted in the U.S., and ideally flexible or self-paced, that is below 10k and achieved in 4 months or lesser, I’d love some guidance. I know this has been talked about before but there’s just so much out there that it’s starting to feel like information overload. I just need it for work pay increase too. Thanks!

You have less than a 50/50 chance of ENEB getting recognized as a masters here in the US. Your best shot is with Validential, but even that is hit or miss. Most of the time ENEB gets recognized as a mere graduate certificate or as a foreign bachelor's degree.

If you need a fast and cheap US masters, I recommend you look at UMPI, TESU, WGU, or HAU. Depending on what you do in healthcare, the MA in Organizational Leadership from UMPI, MHA from WGU, or the MBA from HAU might be your best bet. All three can be done in less than 2 years.

The Hellenic American University MBA is the cheapest, at less than 5,000 total.

You're wrong about a lot here—so let's unpack. ENEB will certainly be evaluated as a Master's from Validential, furthermore MAOL would be the cheapest from UMPI if it can be done in one term, especially if transferring credits(ENEB).

I'm not certain that I have ever heard of anyone being successful in transferring any credits from ENEB to UMPI into the MAOL. UMPI normally only accepts the 3 courses from undergrad that waive the corresponding MAOL courses. Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence of this occurring?

Adding to this discussion, UMPI only accepts evaulation from CED, WES, AICE, or NACES, which Validential is not a member or part of. I'm not seeing how this could be a successful strategy.

[NotJoeBiden]

I know this question has probably come up before, but I’ve been reading through so many pages and posts that I’m honestly getting overwhelmed and more confused than when I started.

I’m really interested in the ENEB double master’s program. I like that it’s self-paced and seems really affordable, which works great for me since I’m working full time. But my main concern is whether this degree can actually be used or evaluated as a master’s in the U.S. My goal is to be able to say that I have a master’s degree, especially since I’m working toward a leadership role in healthcare and that credential could really help. I’m not expecting Ivy League recognition, but I do want something that at least counts and could be respected by employers.

If it’s just for personal development and doesn’t really carry weight professionally, I’m not sure it’s worth the time or money even if it is low cost. Speaking of which, does anyone know if there’s a cheaper way to get the ENEB program than what’s being advertised right now?

Also, if anyone here knows of a legit online master’s program in business or healthcare administration that is affordable, accepted in the U.S., and ideally flexible or self-paced, that is below 10k and achieved in 4 months or lesser, I’d love some guidance. I know this has been talked about before but there’s just so much out there that it’s starting to feel like information overload. I just need it for work pay increase too. Thanks!

You have less than a 50/50 chance of ENEB getting recognized as a masters here in the US. Your best shot is with Validential, but even that is hit or miss. Most of the time ENEB gets recognized as a mere graduate certificate or as a foreign bachelor's degree.

If you need a fast and cheap US masters, I recommend you look at UMPI, TESU, WGU, or HAU. Depending on what you do in healthcare, the MA in Organizational Leadership from UMPI, MHA from WGU, or the MBA from HAU might be your best bet. All three can be done in less than 2 years.

The Hellenic American University MBA is the cheapest, at less than 5,000 total.

You're wrong about a lot here—so let's unpack. ENEB will certainly be evaluated as a Master's from Validential, furthermore MAOL would be the cheapest from UMPI if it can be done in one term, especially if transferring credits(ENEB).

I'm not certain that I have ever heard of anyone being successful in transferring any credits from ENEB to UMPI into the MAOL. UMPI normally only accepts the 3 courses from undergrad that waive the corresponding MAOL courses. Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence of this occurring?

Adding to this discussion, UMPI only accepts evaulation from CED, WES, AICE, or NACES, which Validential is not a member or part of. I'm not seeing how this could be a successful strategy.

As stated, a few evaluators will give it graduate-level credit.

[Jonathan Whatley]

UMPI normally only accepts the 3 courses from undergrad that waive the corresponding MAOL courses.

Recently, UMPI accepts either

• up to 9 credits (3 courses) into the MAOL from the corresponding UMPI undergraduate courses
  
• or up to 6 credits (2 courses) into the MAOL from corresponding graduate coursework outside UMPI.
  

You cannot double these up to get any more than 9 prior credits into the MAOL.

[turbotortuga]

UMPI normally only accepts the 3 courses from undergrad that waive the corresponding MAOL courses.

Recently, UMPI accepts either

• up to 9 credits (3 courses) into the MAOL from the corresponding UMPI undergraduate courses
  
• or up to 6 credits (2 courses) into the MAOL from corresponding graduate coursework outside UMPI.
  

You cannot double these up to get any more than 9 prior credits into the MAOL.

Yes, thank you for the clarification. Regardless, that still doesn't answer the original question. Has anyone ever been successful in transfering any ENEB degree courses/graduate credit to UMPI into the MAOL? I'm very skeptical that the UMPI Business faculty would accept any of those "courses" into the MAOL. I've dealt with them personally, they aren't easy to deal with when it comes to course equivalencies. I even looked through the UMPI Transfer Database for OSL course equivalencies and all I see are RA universities (even UoP's courses are there) but none from ENEB or Isabel I.

[FireMedic_Philosopher]

I know this question has probably come up before, but I’ve been reading through so many pages and posts that I’m honestly getting overwhelmed and more confused than when I started.

I’m really interested in the ENEB double master’s program. I like that it’s self-paced and seems really affordable, which works great for me since I’m working full time. But my main concern is whether this degree can actually be used or evaluated as a master’s in the U.S. My goal is to be able to say that I have a master’s degree, especially since I’m working toward a leadership role in healthcare and that credential could really help. I’m not expecting Ivy League recognition, but I do want something that at least counts and could be respected by employers.

If it’s just for personal development and doesn’t really carry weight professionally, I’m not sure it’s worth the time or money even if it is low cost. Speaking of which, does anyone know if there’s a cheaper way to get the ENEB program than what’s being advertised right now?

Also, if anyone here knows of a legit online master’s program in business or healthcare administration that is affordable, accepted in the U.S., and ideally flexible or self-paced, that is below 10k and achieved in 4 months or lesser, I’d love some guidance. I know this has been talked about before but there’s just so much out there that it’s starting to feel like information overload. I just need it for work pay increase too. Thanks!

You have less than a 50/50 chance of ENEB getting recognized as a masters here in the US. Your best shot is with Validential, but even that is hit or miss. Most of the time ENEB gets recognized as a mere graduate certificate or as a foreign bachelor's degree.

If you need a fast and cheap US masters, I recommend you look at UMPI, TESU, WGU, or HAU. Depending on what you do in healthcare, the MA in Organizational Leadership from UMPI, MHA from WGU, or the MBA from HAU might be your best bet. All three can be done in less than 2 years.

The Hellenic American University MBA is the cheapest, at less than 5,000 total.

You're wrong about a lot here—so let's unpack. ENEB will certainly be evaluated as a Master's from Validential, furthermore MAOL would be the cheapest from UMPI if it can be done in one term, especially if transferring credits(ENEB).

What do you believe I am wrong about? Other than Validential who is going to accept it as a Masters in the US ? I said they would be the best bet... But even they have occasionally rejected ENEB, as several posts on this forum will attest. I also said most other accreditors give it grad cert status (at best) or else credit as a bachelor's degree (at worst). What is incorrect about that?

My statement about cost was referring to HAU being the cheapest MBA option... which at 3k for an RA program is true. The MAOL is not an MBA.

 The ability for the MAOL to be cheaper would likely depend on if they accept transfer credits. As to your claim UMPI will accept ENEB programs for transfer at the graduate level, do you have any evidence of this ?