What happens when you apply eBay thinking to homework?

[Lindagerr]

I just don't thin it is proper grammar I have never seen you write it here. As far as I know it is not in the dictionary. But what do I know I told one of my students the old ain't ain't in the dictionary and she said yes it is now. So who knows maybe Y'all is a real word. Just don't tell that to my nieces and nephew who moved from NJ to SC about 6 years ago they refuse to say y'all

[sanantone]

I just don't thin it is proper grammar I have never seen you write it here. As far as I know it is not in the dictionary. But what do I know I told one of my students the old ain't ain't in the dictionary and she said yes it is now. So who knows maybe Y'all is a real word. Just don't tell that to my nieces and nephew who moved from NJ to SC about 6 years ago they refuse to say y'all

I was joking. It may not be in the dictionary (I haven't checked), but I say it all the time. I do not, however, use it in formal communication.

[clep3705]

Y'all is a real word in Texas! "You all" sounds unnatural.

Y'all follows the rules of contractions. It eliminates ambiguity. It is gender neutral. In Texas, you is singular, y'all is plural. Y'all outside of Texas need to get on board.

Plus it is in the dictionary:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/y'all
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/y'all
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/y'all
Oxford dictionary for the elitists: http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definit...lish/y'all

[Tedium]

Hey, we say y'all in Louisiana, too!

I always thought of CBEs as finals, as well. There may be general regulations as to what a university says must be taught in a certain class, but there are no guarantees that an instructor will actually teach that during a given semester. There are no guarantees that they will teach at all. Sometimes a grade in a course will boil down to what one makes on their final. Being that we are all flawed humans operating in a flawed system, I don't know why people still insist that CBEs do not require the same rigors as a butt-in-seat class. When someone is examining a transcript do they contact each of the instructors and ask them how many days they were actually in class teaching, or how many times they just had students read the text during the class period instead of lecturing?

If they start asking those types of questions then I MIGHT consider that there is some inherent advantage to attending an instructor lead course.

[Sterling Archer]

I went to a couple of Term Paper "warehouses" back in the 90's. They let you look at them briefly before you purchase them.

The quality was so poor, I would've been ashamed to turn one of those in. Honestly, they looked like they were written by a 7th grader

[DrJohn]

When I was at the University of Texas at Austin, a had a couple of classes that were with me and about 300 of my closest "friends". The professor would talk for an hour or more and we would try and take notes. The grades given for that class was based only on the assignments you turned in, and the final. The couple of exams you took were small and didn't count for much, the assignments? Well i have to wonder if they really got graded or simply marked that they were submitted and given credit for.

I think it is probably more common then we think that in some places, in some classes, with some professors that the grade you make in the class is based on that you actually showed up, you turned something in (even if it was a blank sheet of paper with your name on it) and you did well on the final and maybe a couple of tests though out the semester. If UT had this problem when I was there, I am sure it perhaps hasn't changed much, I am sure it is common in places like Harvard University. I agree a CLEP / DSST exam is pretty much just like the final exam, I still think letter grades should be given based on the scores and not just pass / fail. That change might make show the level of understanding a person learned from the exam.

[mrs.b]

"Y'all" is rampant in Alabama as well, and I used to say it only in fun (I'm a Chicago / Pennsylvania / northern transplant), but little by little, started using it in normal conversation. It is used as the plural form of "you," which is unnecessary since "you" is both singular and plural, but in my opinion, it is a grammar offense equivalent to ending a sentence with a preposition which is something many people do in spoken conversation on a regular basis. Heck, tons do it in written communication without a second thought.

As for the value of a degree formed in a classroom or by CLEP, both forms can be cheapened with shortcuts that devalue the represented education. With CLEP, one can study for and squeak by with a full three credits by shooting for the bare minimum passing score; granted, the test taker must know the minimum to get by, but honestly, with the way CBEs are designed, the knowledge base represented in that minimum 50 is not a significant amount of the body of information covered in those courses. Likewise, though, in classroom form, it is very possible to skip classes, barely pay attention, and do the bare minimum (discussion board topics, format papers correctly then toss nonsense in the body to satisfy grading matrixes only with little attention toward content) and pull out a respectable grade, all without cheating. For schools with unproctored testing, the student receiving credit may not even be the person taking the course (I know people that have done that).

Our result from a course (or topic, discussion, book, or any other learning endeavor) equals our investment. As in all things, taking shortcuts only helps in the short term.

[Lindagerr]

Well put mrsb you only get what you put in. I think that is one of the reasons I am against TESC no CC upper credit rule. My cc was of the smaller variety we had an excellent teacher who moved with us from general Chem I through Organic Chem II. She also worked in the field during the day. She knew what we were capable of , many of us also worked in the field during the day. We worked hard and she knew who did what. When I couldn't keep up during Organic Chem II because of too many things happening in my personal life she gave me a little extra time but only a little and I was surprised but knew she was right when I only got a C. If that was a larger expensive school she would not really know me and if Mommy and Daddy were paying the bills and might complain I might have gotten the B.


If you are from the mid-west shouldn't you say you'uns as the plural of you and not y'all? That is the way people I know from western PA say it.

[mrs.b]

If you are from the mid-west shouldn't you say you'uns as the plural of you and not y'all? That is the way people I know from western PA say it.

I can't say I ever heard anyone in the Midwest toss out "you'uns," but trying to mix PA accents into Midwest is like comparing Chinese food to Indian. The Dutchie influence throughout PA lingo puts a lot of Southern sayings to shame! I can still hear my grandma bellow from the porch, "Oi! Git up tha house!" when it was time to come in for lunch and we were dragging our feet.

[Prloko]

I just don't thin it is proper grammar I have never seen you write it here. As far as I know it is not in the dictionary. But what do I know I told one of my students the old ain't ain't in the dictionary and she said yes it is now. So who knows maybe Y'all is a real word. Just don't tell that to my nieces and nephew who moved from NJ to SC about 6 years ago they refuse to say y'all

All current languages were at one time just slang of some other language anyway. Languages are living, and like living things, they adapt and evolve.