Whittled my choices down. TESC: 3 different Bachelors

[CollegeStudent7]

No, I suggested and still suggest that you complete the only 4 business courses which perfectly cross over in all 3 of your possible choices: statistics, macroeconomics, microeconomics, and precal.

Those 4 courses are business requirements, so if you go into business- you're good.
They are also are perfect transfer into natural science (stats and precal in major, both econs in social science gen ed) so if you go with natural science, you're good.
In biology, all 4 would meet your gen ed requirements.

I think if you take all 4, you'll have an excellent idea of whether or not you enjoy business classes (not everyone does) and you'll have rocked out some hard ones, so you'll know academically if you have "the stuff." If you start with something like "intro to business" you're rolling around in blow off classes that will wind up in free electives if you go into science, and not really give you a good taste of the rigor required. Just my two cents.

BTW, even if you pick a major, there is no charge or penalty for changing, so you do that whenever you want.

I honestly don't think I am going to enjoy business, but I also don't think I would hate it. From what I know, courses will be tedious and boring. The ONLY reason I was leaning toward a Bachelors in Natural Science and Mathematics is because having ANY type of degree in Math gains peoples respect. I work at a recruiting agency and have only seen TWO people out of maybe 100+ people have a degree in Math. It feels like at least 70% of our applicants have a Business Admin. degree. That's why I am so torn.

The only thing I don't get is why a Bachelors in Natural Science and Mathematics is considered a Bachelors of Art. Also, I'm wondering if I would have a hard time going to grad school later on. I don't see grad school happening for me for another 5 years, just because my guy and I really cannot afford it financially. We're putting him through one of the top 10 universities in the tri-state area and when he graduates he is looking to finish an architecture program at one of the top 3 universities in NYC (where we live). They have awesome programs and it looks like he may have a chance. He's going to try to get scholarships, but the tuition averages 50k per year..and programs last 2.5 years...so we are saving up now.

There are SO many things I am interested in as far as grad school goes..or I may possibly just finish a BSN/MSN program. I feel like the possibilities are endless for grad school, so I am wondering if a Bachelor of Arts in Natural Science and Mathematics is so bad. Esp. because I'm really only interested in Administrative positions as of now and it seems like many people in this field have no degree or a degree in the following: Art, Music, Theater, Psychology, Fine Arts, Sociology...etc. And not to sound snooty, but I feel that Natural Science/Mathematics will have a little more edge than the following. Of course it depends on the person as well. You have to have good experience, present yourself well and work hard. All of which I have/do.

[CollegeStudent7]

@Geezer, thanks, you are right, but the employers here are actually the superficial and shallow ones! I've seen it a million times with my own eyes. A prettier girl being hired albeit she has less experience and isn't nearly as bright as the other candidates. It's sad to say that looks help you out a good handful here, which is why I am trying to a)lose weight and b) make sure I complete a Bachelors degree that stands out on my resume...and asap.

My ONE and only goal is to save like it's my job. That's all I ever do. So long as I have a job (since the economy was so bad I didn't have one for 7 months straight..even after 200 applications) I always save. Within 5-8 years, I should have enough to invest some into my own small business or a profession where I can practice myself..whether it be a massage therapist....personal trainer...etc. I just have to start out working for myself ASAP. That's where true happiness lies. I am pretty smart with investing my money, so I look at these jobs just as that..jobs. I feel like one is always a slave for someone until the day they don't answer to anyone but themselves. So that's my one and only goal in life as of now...work for myself. In the meantime I just need to keep a steady little office job (since nursing is clearly NOT where the opps lie right now) and keep saving.

One day I'll make it to your level I don't blame others for being jealous. I hate being b**ched around by my bosses and it's the SAME thing every single job I have ever had. I realize it's no longer a personal thing. Employers just simply have all the power in the world right now. Come NEXT recession, I refuse to be sitting on the other side of the table.

[burbuja0512]

There are SO many things I am interested in as far as grad school goes..or I may possibly just finish a BSN/MSN program. I feel like the possibilities are endless for grad school, so I am wondering if a Bachelor of Arts in Natural Science and Mathematics is so bad. Esp. because I'm really only interested in Administrative positions as of now and it seems like many people in this field have no degree or a degree in the following: Art, Music, Theater, Psychology, Fine Arts, Sociology...etc. And not to sound snooty, but I feel that Natural Science/Mathematics will have a little more edge than the following.

First of all, any degree that you go for is better than no degree, so if you think that Natural Science and Mathematics will interest you and get you through school quicker/easier/more enjoyably, then go for it. However, I disagree that it will give you an edge for some of the jobs you're interesting. If you have an LPN + Science degree and no business experience or degree, it would be harder to be hired in a business environment. As a hiring manager, I would wonder how you would fit in the corporate world if you didn't know anything about it. Don't get me wrong, half of the people I work with don't have business degrees, but they've managed to work their way up in different companies so that they do have the business experience so that their undergrad doesn't matter. Many of these people I know went on to get their MBA.

the employers here are actually the superficial and shallow ones! I've seen it a million times with my own eyes. A prettier girl being hired albeit she has less experience and isn't nearly as bright as the other candidates. It's sad to say that looks help you out a good handful here, which is why I am trying to a)lose weight and b) make sure I complete a Bachelors degree that stands out on my resume...and asap.

Ugh.. welcome to the business world. However this isn't true for every department within business. In fact maybe my view is skewed because I've been in sales for so long. For sales, yes it's an expectation and it sucks. LOL... especially at 34 and after having kids, each time I panic that I won't be able to lose the baby weight. (done with kids now lol) Also my husband is well aware that cosmetic surgery will be happening once I start looking older. Thank god that I don't have wrinkles yet because I'm hoping to postpone that until at least my 40's.

Keep in mind that the recruiters don't know what you look like, but it's the norm for people to look you up on LinkedIn before you ever show up for an interview. Put your best darn pic up there and if you don't have one, leave it blank. Once you make it to the interview, it won't matter if you do well in the interview. Trust me, if only the skinniest, most attractive women got hired, no one would have a job. Yes the C-Level execs want a pretty face, but they'd rather have someone that gets their work done efficiently and well.

Sorry.. I'd like to tell you that looks doesn't matter at all. But the good news is that they don't matter as much as you think they do.

[Yenisei]

I honestly don't think I am going to enjoy business, but I also don't think I would hate it. From what I know, courses will be tedious and boring. The ONLY reason I was leaning toward a Bachelors in Natural Science and Mathematics is because having ANY type of degree in Math gains peoples respect. I work at a recruiting agency and have only seen TWO people out of maybe 100+ people have a degree in Math. It feels like at least 70% of our applicants have a Business Admin. degree. That's why I am so torn.

The only thing I don't get is why a Bachelors in Natural Science and Mathematics is considered a Bachelors of Art. Also, I'm wondering if I would have a hard time going to grad school later on. I don't see grad school happening for me for another 5 years, just because my guy and I really cannot afford it financially. We're putting him through one of the top 10 universities in the tri-state area and when he graduates he is looking to finish an architecture program at one of the top 3 universities in NYC (where we live). They have awesome programs and it looks like he may have a chance. He's going to try to get scholarships, but the tuition averages 50k per year..and programs last 2.5 years...so we are saving up now.

There are SO many things I am interested in as far as grad school goes..or I may possibly just finish a BSN/MSN program. I feel like the possibilities are endless for grad school, so I am wondering if a Bachelor of Arts in Natural Science and Mathematics is so bad. Esp. because I'm really only interested in Administrative positions as of now and it seems like many people in this field have no degree or a degree in the following: Art, Music, Theater, Psychology, Fine Arts, Sociology...etc. And not to sound snooty, but I feel that Natural Science/Mathematics will have a little more edge than the following. Of course it depends on the person as well. You have to have good experience, present yourself well and work hard. All of which I have/do.

The Nat Sci/Math degree is a BA because it's a liberal arts degree. It's really only as good as the courses you take to fulfill the requirements. You will get into grad school with it as long as you meet the entry requirements of the programs you apply to- which is a good reason why not to take the only the easiest courses possible to get the degree.

[CollegeStudent7]

First of all, any degree that you go for is better than no degree, so if you think that Natural Science and Mathematics will interest you and get you through school quicker/easier/more enjoyably, then go for it. However, I disagree that it will give you an edge for some of the jobs you're interesting. If you have an LPN + Science degree and no business experience or degree, it would be harder to be hired in a business environment. As a hiring manager, I would wonder how you would fit in the corporate world if you didn't know anything about it. Don't get me wrong, half of the people I work with don't have business degrees, but they've managed to work their way up in different companies so that they do have the business experience so that their undergrad doesn't matter. Many of these people I know went on to get their MBA.





Ugh.. welcome to the business world. However this isn't true for every department within business. In fact maybe my view is skewed because I've been in sales for so long. For sales, yes it's an expectation and it sucks. LOL... especially at 34 and after having kids, each time I panic that I won't be able to lose the baby weight. (done with kids now lol) Also my husband is well aware that cosmetic surgery will be happening once I start looking older. Thank god that I don't have wrinkles yet because I'm hoping to postpone that until at least my 40's.

Keep in mind that the recruiters don't know what you look like, but it's the norm for people to look you up on LinkedIn before you ever show up for an interview. Put your best darn pic up there and if you don't have one, leave it blank. Once you make it to the interview, it won't matter if you do well in the interview. Trust me, if only the skinniest, most attractive women got hired, no one would have a job. Yes the C-Level execs want a pretty face, but they'd rather have someone that gets their work done efficiently and well.

Sorry.. I'd like to tell you that looks doesn't matter at all. But the good news is that they don't matter as much as you think they do.

I actually have tons of administrative experience which is what I am looking for. If they are hiring me now, it's based solely off experience, since I just have a nursing degree. That's the reason I wanted to choose Bachelors of Arts in Mathematics and Natural Sciences. I work at a recruiting agency and they toss Business admin. degrees in the trash left and right. I mean, they also accept MANY of them, but it seems like Business admin. degrees are a dime a dozen in my city . That's the only reason I figured I would go with something that I enjoy....I hate to say that a HUGE part of me wanting to finish my Bachelors is for self fulfillment. But I would be lying if I said it wouldn't give me the ability to apply to many more office jobs that require a Bachelors degree.

Ugh...and here I am eating Captain Crunch because I am so hungry! I gotta lose weight to be more confident and hold myself assertively and professionally. The hiring game out there right now is extremely vicious.

[CollegeStudent7]

The Nat Sci/Math degree is a BA because it's a liberal arts degree. It's really only as good as the courses you take to fulfill the requirements. You will get into grad school with it as long as you meet the entry requirements of the programs you apply to- which is a good reason why not to take the only the easiest courses possible to get the degree.

Shoot..I wonder if I can make it a Bachelors of Science if one takes enough Science classes. I won't die if they can't.

I don't think I will go back for my Masters unless it means a sure pay increase and me being able to move up the ranks. It's just too expensive at this point and I want to start a family in a few years.

[burbuja0512]

I actually have tons of administrative experience which is what I am looking for. If they are hiring me now, it's based solely off experience, since I just have a nursing degree. That's the reason I wanted to choose Bachelors of Arts in Mathematics and Natural Sciences. I work at a recruiting agency and they toss Business admin. degrees in the trash left and right. I mean, they also accept MANY of them, but it seems like Business admin. degrees are a dime a dozen in my city . That's the only reason I figured I would go with something that I enjoy....I hate to say that a HUGE part of me wanting to finish my Bachelors is for self fulfillment. But I would be lying if I said it wouldn't give me the ability to apply to many more office jobs that require a Bachelors degree.

Ugh...and here I am eating Captain Crunch because I am so hungry! I gotta lose weight to be more confident and hold myself assertively and professionally. The hiring game out there right now is extremely vicious.

Then if you have the experience, do what you like best. I don't think it should matter. Do what you like best, but go for it!! I know you'll do well.


Awwww... don't worry about it. Enjoy your Capitan Crunch and focus on your test. Get your degree and be confident about your experience and education. I will be able to tell you in just a few weeks how a degree boosts your confidence.

Also, don't sweat so much about the hiring game. YES it's tough right now, and yes it's very normal to have to go through many interviews and painful rejections, but it doesn't mean that you won't eventually find a great job. Spend the entire time that you're studying networking. Everyone that I know that has gotten a new job (myself included) has done it through people they know. There are 500 resumes for every opening, so the odds are against you. I'm a HUGE proponent of LinkedIn because you can stay in touch with everyone you've worked with over the years. You never know when they will come in handy, or when you can lend them a hand.

[Storyteller]

Get the degree in a subject you are most interested in. Economies come and Economies go and before long the drunken sailor days will be upon us (no offense to our folks in uniform) and jobs and business opportunities will spring up like fields of Flanders poppies, by the millions.
That said, Life is shorter than you think, so do want you want to do...

[jackzack87]

BSBA ....
best overall bet for what you're going into. Best of both worlds, IMO

[cookderosa]

Shoot..I wonder if I can make it a Bachelors of Science if one takes enough Science classes. I won't die if they can't.

I don't think I will go back for my Masters unless it means a sure pay increase and me being able to move up the ranks. It's just too expensive at this point and I want to start a family in a few years.

Not at TESC. The only BS degrees they offer are technical degrees. Seriously, it doesn't matter. It's like getting caught up in the word "major" vs "concentration" when they are brand words- there is no distinct difference- this varies based on school, not industry. This shouldn't even be a speed bump let alone a brick wall.