need help with degree planning for son for Bachelor's in Business Admin or Finance

[rachel83az]

With TESU, you can get a BALS with no proctoring. For a business degree, you can come really close. I think you would need 4-8 Study.com courses, depending on the degree. It also depends on how the Coursera certificates come in: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera These are not proctored, and you might be able to get a general management BSBA by utilizing multiple certificates.

For UMPI, he'd need one proctored exam: Biology 101L from Study.com. Everything else can come from Sophia, Coursera, or papers written at UMPI. But your son would need to be at least 20 years of age.

@rachel83az

Thank you for very helpful information and quick reply. 

For Study.com, based on other replies to this thread, it utilizes a recorded video proctoring software? 

So, it sounds like for the TESU Business Administration degree, depending on the Coursera certificates, he would need a max of 8 video recorded exams (depending on how many exams are required for the course? I am assuming it is just one pass/fail exam)? Sorry for all the questions, but, the concept of video proctoring is really new to me and pretty new to him. When I got my bachelors degree in the late 90s and MBA in the early 2000s, I was still doing in person traditional butt in seat classes.

For the Biology 101L from Study.com required for UMPI, I am assuming the "L" in the course name is a lab class and this would meet a Science with a lab general education requirement? Is Biology 101L the only allowable science requirement? He actually took a Weather course with a Lab. He met the requirement for taking the Weather course, but, failed or dropped the Lab because he blew it off and didn't attend the number of needed sessions to pass it. I am thinking about having him take just the lab portion of the Weather class at YSU this Fall, but, it sounds like it might be quicker and cheaper to take the Biology 101L course? YSU charges about $400 a credit hour and this would be over a 15 week semester. 

Conversely, my guess is that the Study.com BIO 101L course could likely be completed in under 1 month with a Study.com subscription that would be like $200 or less and could also pay for other course requirements. Would you recommend he take the Biology 101L even though he has a Weather course?

He is 20 and will be 21 in August so he meets the age requirement for UMPI. From a cost comparison standpoint, it sounds like the Bachelors in Business from UMPI would cost about $2500-3000 and a Bachelor's degree in Finance would be roughly about $4000?

Thanks,

Education Seeker

Yes, SDC is a recorded video proctor. During the exam, the webcam will record a video of the student taking the exam. They do not take video of you completing lessons or anything like that. Each SDC course needs ONE exam (same with Davar, Coopersmith, StraighterLine, etc. Just one exam) plus quizzes and possibly an assignment. 

I haven't done a breakdown of exactly how many SDC courses you NEED to get a TESU BSBA. So I may be off by a bit. Your best bet would be to make a spreadsheet utilizing information from the wiki. https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ts_Roadmap That way you can prioritize the non-video proctored courses from Sophia. 

Another thing I forgot is that Davar allows you to choose your own proctor. You can use a live video proctor, a recorded video proctor, or you can get a librarian, priest, etc. (non-family member) to register as a proctor. Then you can take your exams without any video at all, only a standard in-person proctor. So, if he's okay with going somewhere for exams, that could be an option.

Biology 101L does indeed stand for biology with lab. The other option from SDC is Chemistry with lab, and I've heard that one can be a challenge. I forgot that he could also do a lab science from ASU. They have a couple of Biology courses and an Environmental Science course that should be non-proctored. He will need at least one biology course and one physical science course. The lab can be for either the biology or physical science. Most students here are able to complete Biology 101L in 2-3 weeks, but a few have needed a bit longer than a month to complete the lab. 

If you're only doing the science class at SDC, once you account for the lab fees, there is not a huge cost difference between SDC, ASU, and the YSU lab you mentioned. He should pick the lab science that interests him the most. He might want to sign up for ASU this week to audit BIO100 that started yesterday. If he signs up now, he should still be able to audit it. It is FREE to audit the course (or you can upgrade for $25; only pay the remaining $400 if you decide to transcript the course), and he can see if he likes the format.

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I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone that remote proctoring is not much different or "creepy" than in-person proctoring, which we've all been doing since forever.  If you've sat in a class and taken a test, and your teacher is there, that's in-person proctoring.  Yes, they are watching you take a test.

Remote proctoring is VERY different than a professor being in the same room with you. There's more to it as well. I never had to show my driver's license and have it stored on some database God knows where to take an exam in a classroom. I have experience with Examity and never again. I will not take classes with proctoring again. Examity was an absolute nightmare. They wanted me to turn off my ac because of the noise. They wanted me to tell my neighbor to stop mowing his lawn because of the noise. The wanted me turn my clear glass of water upside down so they could see that it was a clear glass. What kind of moron asks that? They interrupt you while you're taking the exam. They are very difficult to understand as English is not their first language. It was a horrible experience.

I am so glad that RPNow (used by SDC) is not like that! ProctorU can be pretty bad, but I've never heard of anything that bad. Thankfully, not all video proctors are the same. I wouldn't want to touch Examity, though.