Possible Future DEAC University

[Alpha]

 And possible the people with experience studying there are the one that can aport more, since they have experience and know more than us, or at least me, given they could see the works from inside and not only from outside.



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Of course the people who are studying there currently have a built in bias and will defend their decision if only to save face.

[rachel83az]

“We declined an invitation to apply for accreditation from Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools because the program, curriculum, and operational changes required would be detrimental to our students and negatively impact our ability to offer a quality and affordable business education online. We are open to considering relationships with quality-assurance or accreditation agencies if we find a good fit.”

They’re waiting for DEAC. I think it was a mistake for them to turn down Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools. They should’ve took the NA to get some sales while waiting to become RA. Also their name sucks lol. 

The monthly payments should be at least halved and spread across 2 years. Just require a payoff to receive a diploma. 

It's my understanding that ACICS is kind of on rocky ground right now and is somewhat controversial? I remember that there was another thread about it on the board here. I can understand turning that accrediting down if they thought it might give them a stigma even worse than not being accredited.

[ss20ts]

“We declined an invitation to apply for accreditation from Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools because the program, curriculum, and operational changes required would be detrimental to our students and negatively impact our ability to offer a quality and affordable business education online. We are open to considering relationships with quality-assurance or accreditation agencies if we find a good fit.”

They’re waiting for DEAC. I think it was a mistake for them to turn down Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools. They should’ve took the NA to get some sales while waiting to become RA. Also their name sucks lol. 

The monthly payments should be at least halved and spread across 2 years. Just require a payoff to receive a diploma. 

I understand that there's a waiting period with all accreditations, but to come out and reject any accreditation just looks bad. I understand what they want to do and are trying to achieve, but they need to play nicely with the system in order to last. Who wants a degree from a place that's completely unaccredited? They have no standards to follow. They could get you a BA in business without you ever taking an accounting course, human resources, finance, business law, math, management, etc. It kind of reminds me the South Harmon Institute of Technology. I hope their offices aren't in an old mental health hospital. 

[Johann]

I understand that there's a waiting period with all accreditations, but to come out and reject any accreditation just looks bad. I understand what they want to do and are trying to achieve, but they need to play nicely with the system in order to last. Who wants a degree from a place that's completely unaccredited? They have no standards to follow. They could get you a BA in business without you ever taking an accounting course, human resources, finance, business law, math, management, etc. It kind of reminds me the South Harmon Institute of Technology. I hope their offices aren't in an old mental health hospital. 

This school is in Hawaii. That state allows unaccredited schools to operate forever, provided they observe consumer protection rules re: refunds etc and don't do fraudulent things like issue degrees in 30 days etc. There have to be real courses etc. but there is nothing that could really be called academic oversight.

With their aversion to accreditation, including stated reluctance to change their curriculum or add courses etc - Hawaii is probably the right place for them. Within the rules, they can operate unaccredited, on their own terms, forever - and I think they likely will, for as long as they can make it work, financially. I just hope they don't get some meaningless third-party so-called 'accreditor' to sell them a seal of approval which means NOTHING in US. That's been done by a number of schools, lately. 

As long as they don't resort to meaningless, non-US recognized, so-called "accreditation" - good luck to them, I guess. What else can I say?

[ashkir]

At the very least if they don't want to be accredited, it'd be nice if they can at least reach out to ACE or something to get their courses creditable. Their content is probably pretty decent tbh, considering how new they are and how easy some accredited sources are (Sophia). It'd be nice if they can at least do that, like hey here's a full 120 credit degree from us, and you can take 114 credits to TESU and get something accredited too.

[Johann]

... hey here's a full 120 credit degree from us, and you can take 114 credits to TESU and get something accredited too.

Said no Hawaii unaccredited school... ever. 

[dfrecore]

... hey here's a full 120 credit degree from us, and you can take 114 credits to TESU and get something accredited too.

Said no Hawaii unaccredited school... ever. 

None of the Big 3 will take unaccredited credits towards a degree.  TESU & COSC require RA credits, EC will accept RA and NA.  None will take completely unaccredited ones.

[Johann]

Not even ACE-laundered ones, as through a provider something like Sophia, etc. as Askir was suggesting? My point was that an outfit like this would not even try to get their credits ACE-accepted. Would it actually be impossible? I have no clue when it comes to Big 3. I went to a B&M uni and 2 colleges, at night, here in Canada.

Thanks

[rachel83az]

Unaccredited/improperly accredited but ACE is, essentially, exactly what Penn Foster is.

[Kab]

Unaccredited/improperly accredited but ACE is, essentially, exactly what Penn Foster is.

But Penn Foster is NA, no?