ENEB New Master Thread

[tordan]

It seems that today, ENEB has introduced UNISEB. In an email, they mentioned the Namencis Education Group (https://namenciseducation.com/). A quick look at their website shows all their partner schools: European Higher Institute of Barcelona (ISEB), European School of International Education (ESIE), European Institute of Senior Management (IEAD), European Business School of Barcelona (ENEB), and Oakford International Language School.

It appears they are now claiming they will convert your ENEB diploma to a university-specific degree. This looks like a way to change your Título Propio degree from ENEB/UI1 to a UNISEB/UI1 degree, as detailed here: https://eneb.com/convunisebusd/.

I personally think it's best to wait until May for "Red Friday" or whatever the equivalent Spanish sales event is, and pick up these programs for a low price, often around $99. After completing them, I'd get the diploma validated by a credential evaluation service like FCE (Scholaro) and then use the credits elsewhere.

In my opinion, all these Título Propio degrees are about the same as a U.S. nationally accredited degree. While they might not be as widely accepted as a Título Oficial Master's Degree, ENEB is a good option for cutting down on the work required to complete a program at a regionally accredited institution. Ultimately, the value of this ENEB/UI1 degree depends on where you live and what your specific goals are.

They're nothing at all like nationally accredited degrees. There are no nationally accredited degrees you can get by writing 10-13 essays. Nothing wrong with a project-based Master's, but you'll have to do way more work to get a Master's in the United States no matter which accredited school you go with.

Thank you! I wanted someone to call me on this one.

[bjcheung77]

In other words, the UNISEB is an add-on, it's just a money grab opportunity for them. I usually recommend skipping everything from ENEB, just do the programs the old fashion way (not the Agile exam option). Get the evaluated if you needed, but don't get any add-ons unless you absolutely need to, as I don't any benefit to getting them...

[cacoleman1983]

I messaged ENEB through WhatsApp about this offer and this is what they stated:


Me: Hi, I'm looking at this validation program you are offering, https://eneb.com/convunisebusd/.   Will this validation with UNISEB along with Universidad Isabel I diploma come with an Universidad Isabel I transcript?

ENEB:  
Good morning!

Yes, the UNISEB validation program gives you a proprietary university diploma issued by Universidad Isabel I, and it includes a transcript.

Please note:
This validation only applies to the MBA. If you have an MBA + Master package, only the MBA is transferred to the Universidad Isabel I degree – the Master remains with its original ENEB or UI1 certification.

Let me know if you have further questions



What this suggests is that you can only transfer in the MBA portion of your degree as a university diploma which will result in the MBA having its own Universidad Isabel I transcript.   The remaining Masters degrees will still be on the ENEB transcripts.  

The only benefit to this arrangement is if someone wants to hide ENEB from a foreign credential evaluator so they could only evaluate Isabel I as they will supply their own transcript for the MBA validation.   This can lead to those who are refusing to evaluate ENEB or have evaluated them as unaccredited or continuing education in the past to evaluate as accredited with graduate study if not a Masters equivalency.    Other than that,  it would make no difference for those evaluators who were already looking at the Isabel I diploma for evaluations in the first place.

[nykorn]

I'm really torn about this. My relative has no college degree, and I had signed her up for the ENEB MBA. She's now looking to move abroad to to countries which don't equate ENEB to as really being worth anything. If anyone could prove this new partnership would be better, I'd just pay for it. I feel like I'm just hoping I can squeeze more out of this than it's worth.

By the way, simply having ENEB on her resume here in the USA - despite not having finished the degree yet - got her a job at a position where the ad stated the applicant must have a degree.

[KSoul]

Talking with ENEB through WhatsApp and would like to confirm that $599 is the best deal for the MBA program.

Here is the link provided: https://pay.hotmart.com/O97277334N?off=0...5375740506

Seems to be double from when I did the program; perhaps that was the good old days.

[nykorn]

They're nothing at all like nationally accredited degrees. There are no nationally accredited degrees you can get by writing 10-13 essays. Nothing wrong with a project-based Master's, but you'll have to do way more work to get a Master's in the United States no matter which accredited school you go with.

Thank you! I wanted someone to call me on this one.

I agree that most colleges are going to have more work. But to be honest, WGU is really, really easy. There's only 1 - 3 assignments or tests per class. If you have background knowledge on the subject you can skip over 90% of the reading. A ton of the info repeats itself across all the courses, it's not that every course has new info. They don't care if you tweak and reuse assignments. And some WGU Master's degrees are only like 10 classes. It's even more lenient than ENEB because you can redo assignments & tests essentially indefinitely (you just have to pay for each attempt if you fail more than 3 times). That's why people have passed entire WGU degrees in 2 weeks in some fields.

I have a relative who did a business degree at a brick and mortar school in Washington state and they were able to test out of the majority of classes. I've noticed an increasing number of colleges doing this over the past couple years, when previously it was unheard of.

ENEB is not much work in an objective sense, but it's more pages of reading than I have been doing for WGU and it's actually harder than WGU because the Spanish to English translation is poor (sometimes completely wrong) and I have to do a lot of outside research to figure out what the English is trying to say. I also feel like some stuff ENEB tests on or has you do assignments on isn't even covered in the material, again requiring outside research. If those issues were fixed, it would be easy in all senses of the word.

My degree from a Nordic country was much harder, higher level education with much more studying than anything I've had to do from any American college I've studied at (and I've studied at 4 American ones), but you don't see the Nordics claiming an American degree isn't worth anything. It's all relative I guess.

[IHatePickingUsernames]

I'm really torn about this. My relative has no college degree, and I had signed her up for the ENEB MBA. She's now looking to move abroad to to countries which don't equate ENEB to as really being worth anything. If anyone could prove this new partnership would be better, I'd just pay for it. I feel like I'm just hoping I can squeeze more out of this than it's worth.

By the way, simply having ENEB on her resume here in the USA - despite not having finished the degree yet - got her a job at a position where the ad stated the applicant must have a degree.

ENEB requires either a bachelors degree or five years of business/work experience, or a combination of the two. Has your relative submitted her documentation to the Admissions department yet? I'm asking because if she doesn't ENEB will not award her the MBA when she's done. It's happened before. Just a head's up.

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Talking with ENEB through WhatsApp and would like to confirm that $599 is the best deal for the MBA program.

Here is the link provided: https://pay.hotmart.com/O97277334N?off=0...5375740506

Seems to be double from when I did the program; perhaps that was the good old days.

Yes, they were. That was when ENEB was opening their programs up to people outside of Spain, especially English speakers. Although not as low as our degree were, they're still pretty low especially for the value they offer.

[bjcheung77]

@KSoul Hmm, you can always try using my ambassador code for the Single/Double Masters as it still comes in at $399 for one, or $499 for both programs, it's in the ENEB Discount Thread. I just tried the links and it works, it'll be better than getting one program for $599! If it doesn't work for you, then you can always try to get a refund.

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Let me link you to that post #2: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid415559

[JC39]

Has anyone here done an evaluation of the ENEB Double or Global Masters (with the Universidad Isabel I diploma) through either IEE or ECE?
I’m trying to figure out a few things:

1. Do they usually treat the ENEB/UI1 Double or Global Masters as equivalent to a U.S. bachelor’s, or something else?
   
2. For documents, do I need both the ENEB transcript and the UI1 diploma, or just the diploma?
   
3. Since the UI1 diploma is available through the ENEB dashboard, is that enough, or do evaluators also need the transcript showing courses/credits?
   
4. For ECE, is the cheaper Education Course Report ($185) enough, or do I need the Divisional Course Report ($225)?
   
5. For IEE, is the regular Course Report ($185) usually fine, or should I expect to need the Divisional ($225)?
   
6. Has anyone here recently gone through IEE and can confirm the current report pricing (Document, GPA, Course, Divisional)?
   
   

I just don’t want to waste money by picking the wrong report type or sending the wrong documents. Any firsthand experiences or advice would really help. Thanks!

[bjcheung77]

Course by Course is the way to go, you don't really need the divisional report... Go ECE if you're looking for RA equivalent Bachelors, go IEE if you're looking for RA equivalent grad cert. It depends what your use case scenario is, grad school entry requirements, or transfer credit possibility...