ENEB New Master Thread

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

After I took the final exams for UNISEB x Isabel convalidation earlier this week, I have already received my UNISEB Diplomas and Transcript of Records. The UNISEB Diploma is similar to the ENEB one, but already includes a mention of Universidad Isabel I (as well as the logo and directors signature), which makes it already look better than "just" the regular ENEB diplomas (which don't mention the University at all). The Transcript also includes the Isabel logo (which also makes it look better than the ENEB transcript (which doesn't include Isabel at all). However, no ECTS are being mentioned. I'm eager to see how the master issued "directly by the University" and the transcript from the University (I hope I will actually receive both as promised) will look like.

Is your diploma and transcript in Spanish or English? 

I got the diploma and transcript today as well, but in Spanish. I've emailed them today asking for English versions instead of Spanish.

1. The diploma looks exactly as the mock-up on the convalidation landing page. https://eneb.com/convunisebusd/
   
2. Universidad Isabel I | UNISEB is mentioned up top, it is signed by the Academic Director of UNISEB (from ISEB), and also by the Rector of Ui1, with the raised seal of Ui1, but issued by ISEB. 
   
3. The Transcript is the same way with Ui1 and UNISEB mentioned, with no ECTS, and only the hours.  
   
4. Convalidated Modules on the Transcript do not have a grade, instead it says 'conv"
   
5. Will there be a directly issued diploma from Ui1 as promised without mention of ISEB, or is this it (I don't know yet)
   
6. We will have to submit to ECE to see if it makes a difference. 
   

At present, my feeling is I paid $560, did some more coursework, and got a much nicer looking diploma and transcript. That's not too bad, actually, because I dread the appearance of the ENEB Diplomas. It might sound shallow, but I do care about aesthetics and like things that look beautiful, such as the ISEB/UNISEB diplomas. Even the regular ISEB diplomas in my view are an improvement in color scheme and presentation over ENEB diplomas.

Anyways, I am very much interested in an ISEB course this time, and willing to take it in Spanish. I have inquired about it and would be happy to take it at a reasonable cost. Waiting to hear back at this time.

As this diploma is not the typical UNISEB Diploma, it might be it. Normally the UNISEB Diplomas look different than this one.

Normally there are ISEB Programs which are different from the UNISEB Programs:
Normal ISEB Diplomas are also supplemented by a UI1 Certificate, exactly like ENEB + Ui1.
Normal UNISEB Diplomas from ISEB look different than the regular ISEB diplomas, and are also supplemented by a Ui1 Certificate.

Because this convalidation has the signature and seal of UI1, there might not be any further documentation provided. Will have to follow up and ask to find out.

[slammX]

After I took the final exams for UNISEB x Isabel convalidation earlier this week, I have already received my UNISEB Diplomas and Transcript of Records. The UNISEB Diploma is similar to the ENEB one, but already includes a mention of Universidad Isabel I (as well as the logo and directors signature), which makes it already look better than "just" the regular ENEB diplomas (which don't mention the University at all). The Transcript also includes the Isabel logo (which also makes it look better than the ENEB transcript (which doesn't include Isabel at all). However, no ECTS are being mentioned. I'm eager to see how the master issued "directly by the University" and the transcript from the University (I hope I will actually receive both as promised) will look like.

Is your diploma and transcript in Spanish or English? 

I got the diploma and transcript today as well, but in Spanish. I've emailed them today asking for English versions instead of Spanish.

1. The diploma looks exactly as the mock-up on the convalidation landing page. https://eneb.com/convunisebusd/
   
2. Universidad Isabel I | UNISEB is mentioned up top, it is signed by the Academic Director of UNISEB (from ISEB), and also by the Rector of Ui1, with the raised seal of Ui1, but issued by ISEB. 
   
3. The Transcript is the same way with Ui1 and UNISEB mentioned, with no ECTS, and only the hours.  
   
4. Convalidated Modules on the Transcript do not have a grade, instead it says 'conv"
   
5. Will there be a directly issued diploma from Ui1 as promised without mention of ISEB, or is this it (I don't know yet)
   
6. We will have to submit to ECE to see if it makes a difference. 
   

At present, my feeling is I paid $560, did some more coursework, and got a much nicer looking diploma and transcript. That's not too bad, actually, because I dread the appearance of the ENEB Diplomas. It might sound shallow, but I do care about aesthetics and like things that look beautiful, such as the ISEB/UNISEB diplomas. Even the regular ISEB diplomas in my view are an improvement in color scheme and presentation over ENEB diplomas.

Anyways, I am very much interested in an ISEB course this time, and willing to take it in Spanish. I have inquired about it and would be happy to take it at a reasonable cost. Waiting to hear back at this time.

As this diploma is not the typical UNISEB Diploma, it might be it. Normally the UNISEB Diplomas look different than this one.

Normally there are ISEB Programs which are different from the UNISEB Programs:
Normal ISEB Diplomas are also supplemented by a UI1 Certificate, exactly like ENEB + Ui1.
Normal UNISEB Diplomas from ISEB look different than the regular ISEB diplomas, and are also supplemented by a Ui1 Certificate.

Because this convalidation has the signature and seal of UI1, there might not be any further documentation provided. Will have to follow up and ask to find out.

I certainly hope there will be a separate diploma issued directly by UI1 as promised, because this diploma "certified by UI1 and issued by ISEB" doesn't do it for me. Although, based on what you've said, it does seem like this is it. I would follow up with ENEB because this seems like more ENEB marketing magic (i.e. blatant lies) - this is most definitely not a university-specific degree, its just another certification. Its no better than the useless "taught by ENEB and certified by UI1" ENEB program diploma.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

I certainly hope there will be a separate diploma issued directly by UI1 as promised, because this diploma "certified by UI1 and issued by ISEB" doesn't do it for me. Although, based on what you've said, it does seem like this is it. I would follow up with ENEB because this seems like more ENEB marketing magic (i.e. blatant lies) - this is most definitely not a university-specific degree, its just another certification. Its no better than the useless "taught by ENEB and certified by UI1" ENEB program diploma.

I certainly hope so too, because it says in the UNISEB marketing material: "Upon completion of your academic program, you will receive a certificate issued by UNISEB and a university-level proprietary Master’s diploma issued by Universidad Isabel I de Castilla in collaboration with UNISEB".

ISEB program language is one we are familiar with. The translation isn't great, but:

1. UNISEB says Diploma de Master propio Universitario.
2. Whereas ISEB says you will receive a dual qualification, certified by Universidad Isabel I. 
3. If I had to guess, the Ui1 paper will say that La Universidad Internacional Isabel I De Castilla, in collaboration with UNISEB herrby confers this Master Propio Universitario"

I think that will solve it. This way, it's not totally ignoring the involvement of a collaboration, but specifically says "we confer" this actual degree (instead of certifying the hours)

UNISEB

"Al finalizar tu programa formativo obtendrás un certificado emitido por UNISEB y un Diploma de Máster propio universitario emitido por la Universidad Isabel I de Castilla en colaboración con UNISEB."


ISEB

"Al finalizar tus estudios, obtendrás una doble titulación expedida por el Instituto Superior Europeo de Barcelona, avalada y certificada por la Universidad Isabel I."

[slammX]

I certainly hope there will be a separate diploma issued directly by UI1 as promised, because this diploma "certified by UI1 and issued by ISEB" doesn't do it for me. Although, based on what you've said, it does seem like this is it. I would follow up with ENEB because this seems like more ENEB marketing magic (i.e. blatant lies) - this is most definitely not a university-specific degree, its just another certification. Its no better than the useless "taught by ENEB and certified by UI1" ENEB program diploma.

I certainly hope so too, because it says in the UNISEB marketing material: "Upon completion of your academic program, you will receive a certificate issued by UNISEB and a university-level proprietary Master’s diploma issued by Universidad Isabel I de Castilla in collaboration with UNISEB".

ISEB program language is one we are familiar with. The translation isn't great, but 

1. UNISEB says Diploma de Master propio Universitario.
2. Whereas ISEB says you will receive a dual qualification, certified by Universidad Isabel I. 
3. If I had to guess, the Ui1 paper will say that La Universidad Internacional Isabel I De Castilla, in collaboration with UNISEB herrby confers this Master Propio Universitario"

I think that will solve it. This way, it's not totally ignoring the involvement of a collaboration, but specifically says "we confer" this actual degree (instead of certifying the hours)

UNISEB

"Al finalizar tu programa formativo obtendrás un certificado emitido por UNISEB y un Diploma de Máster propio universitario emitido por la Universidad Isabel I de Castilla en colaboración con UNISEB."


ISEB

"Al finalizar tus estudios, obtendrás una doble titulación expedida por el Instituto Superior Europeo de Barcelona, avalada y certificada por la Universidad Isabel I."

Sounds promising. Please keep us updated. I'm doing the project route and due to time constraints I can only do one project submission per week - I'll probably only finish towards the end of November.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

Sounds promising. Please keep us updated. I'm doing the project route and due to time constraints I can only do one project submission per week - I'll probably only finish towards the end of November.

Perfect, will do. I am wrapping up this UNISEB Convalidaton with some housecleaning to do: 1. get the diploma in English and not Spanish, 2. have the resubmissions graded, and also 3. sort out why 1 of the 3 UNISEB modules currently shows as "conv" on the transcript and "Excluded from Grade" on the grades tab.  I have received an email from UNISEB as of last night/early am today, that they will be sorting this and grading as requested. I requested the diploma be in English at 1am in response to that email, so on that part I am waiting to hear back.

Anyways, when we submit to say IEE, they do have evaluators who can read, write, and speak Spanish, so it's not exactly a huge issue.

Meanwhile, ISEB just called me, we spoke on the phone as well as via WhatsApp. My Spanish is poor, so she spoke some Spanish, some English. Most of it was pretty easy to understand "what kind of work do you do now, what makes you want to take this program, The courses are online, and there are live classes available etc, there will primarily be a diploma from ISEB and secondly from Ui1, it will not be a direct degree. The course is in Spanish, is that okay? etc.  Anyway, that's what I understood

I enrolled in the Nutrition and Health program.  Just when I thought I was done with ENEB, ISEB, and Namencis Education Group, they bring me back in. (The Unimarconi transfer I kind of compartmentalize as being different from ENEB and ISEB)

It will be an introductory course for me as I pursue other degrees in this area in the future. I figure this propio can potentially knock out 2 of the 3 prerequisite courses for the Master's want to do in the US. (Introductory Nutrition, Human Physiology or Anatomy/Physiology). 

The 3rd prerequisite of Biochemistry is more of a stretch, but partial credit may be possible with presentation of the syllabus. Anyways, it's going to be more of a strategic placeholder until I finish the US Master's down the line.  Anyone who wants to go that route of affordable prerequisite courses, I would say StraighterLine is the sure bet for those 3 prerequisites, however I am pretty used to studying for a Propio now and I like ISEB, so why not.

[wow]

...I enrolled in the Nutrition and Health program.  Just when I thought I was done with ENEB, ISEB, and Namencis Education Group, they bring me back in. (The Unimarconi transfer I kind of compartmentalize as being different from ENEB and ISEB)

It will be an introductory course for me as I pursue other degrees in this area in the future. I figure this propio can potentially knock out 2 of the 3 prerequisite courses for the Master's want to do in the US. (Introductory Nutrition, Human Physiology or Anatomy/Physiology). ...

On the website, it looks like this is an ISEB-only, not UNISEB, program. Is that correct?

Are they going lower than the 2400 euros quoted on the site?

iseb.es/programas-formativos/master/master-en-nutricion-y-salud/

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

...I enrolled in the Nutrition and Health program.  Just when I thought I was done with ENEB, ISEB, and Namencis Education Group, they bring me back in. (The Unimarconi transfer I kind of compartmentalize as being different from ENEB and ISEB)

It will be an introductory course for me as I pursue other degrees in this area in the future. I figure this propio can potentially knock out 2 of the 3 prerequisite courses for the Master's want to do in the US. (Introductory Nutrition, Human Physiology or Anatomy/Physiology). ...

On the website, it looks like this is an ISEB-only, not UNISEB, program. Is that correct?

Are they going lower than the 2400 euros quoted on the site?

iseb.es/programas-formativos/master/master-en-nutricion-y-salud/

Hi, yes it's an ISEB offering so it will be like th ENEB+Ui1 arrangement we are already familiar with. I emailed asking for info, they called and offered 890 as a sale price. I had found a link last night for 850, and when I showed it on WhatsApp, I got the green light to use that link. I didn't want to just use the link without having on record they would honor it, so I waited for the call today.  Way more than ENEB programs, but who is offering a program like this, even if it is a propio. It wil be 100% in Spanish but we know we can translate that

[wow]

...I enrolled in the Nutrition and Health program.  Just when I thought I was done with ENEB, ISEB, and Namencis Education Group, they bring me back in. (The Unimarconi transfer I kind of compartmentalize as being different from ENEB and ISEB)

It will be an introductory course for me as I pursue other degrees in this area in the future. I figure this propio can potentially knock out 2 of the 3 prerequisite courses for the Master's want to do in the US. (Introductory Nutrition, Human Physiology or Anatomy/Physiology). ...

On the website, it looks like this is an ISEB-only, not UNISEB, program. Is that correct?

Are they going lower than the 2400 euros quoted on the site?

iseb.es/programas-formativos/master/master-en-nutricion-y-salud/

Hi, yes it's an ISEB offering so it will be like th ENEB+Ui1 arrangement we are already familiar with. I emailed asking for info, they called and offered 890 as a sale price. Way more than ENEB programs, but who is offering a program like this, even if it is a propio. It wil be 100% in Spanish but we know we can translate that

If you speak French this might be good, but I don't know the price: https://www.cned.fr/bts/bts-dietetique-et-nutrition

It's tempting though. It looks like a decent curriculum. Maybe we should start a new thread about ISEB/UNISEB because I don't really understand the advantage of UNISEB over ISEB. And also to discuss their other offerings ... OK I just did that: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-ISEB-and-UNISEB

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

...I enrolled in the Nutrition and Health program.  Just when I thought I was done with ENEB, ISEB, and Namencis Education Group, they bring me back in. (The Unimarconi transfer I kind of compartmentalize as being different from ENEB and ISEB)

It will be an introductory course for me as I pursue other degrees in this area in the future. I figure this propio can potentially knock out 2 of the 3 prerequisite courses for the Master's want to do in the US. (Introductory Nutrition, Human Physiology or Anatomy/Physiology). ...

On the website, it looks like this is an ISEB-only, not UNISEB, program. Is that correct?

Are they going lower than the 2400 euros quoted on the site?

iseb.es/programas-formativos/master/master-en-nutricion-y-salud/

Hi, yes it's an ISEB offering so it will be like th ENEB+Ui1 arrangement we are already familiar with. I emailed asking for info, they called and offered 890 as a sale price. Way more than ENEB programs, but who is offering a program like this, even if it is a propio. It wil be 100% in Spanish but we know we can translate that

If you speak French this might be good, but I don't know the price: https://www.cned.fr/bts/bts-dietetique-et-nutrition

It's tempting though. It looks like a decent curriculum. Maybe we should start a new thread about ISEB/UNISEB because I don't really understand the advantage of UNISEB over ISEB. And also to discuss their other offerings ... OK I just did that: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-ISEB-and-UNISEB

The French program looks pretty good but it also has an internship, and the program can be done remotely.  I find translating Spanish into English to be not so overwhelming. French on the other hand, I find it to be more difficult. So this is a technical diploma one takes after high school,a Brevet de Technicien Superior (higher technical diploma). It seems the word Brevet is used for some of the foundational or entry level qualifications. I wonder what the cost is.

[Voldigoad]

After I took the final exams for UNISEB x Isabel convalidation earlier this week, I have already received my UNISEB Diplomas and Transcript of Records. The UNISEB Diploma is similar to the ENEB one, but already includes a mention of Universidad Isabel I (as well as the logo and directors signature), which makes it already look better than "just" the regular ENEB diplomas (which don't mention the University at all). The Transcript also includes the Isabel logo (which also makes it look better than the ENEB transcript (which doesn't include Isabel at all). However, no ECTS are being mentioned. I'm eager to see how the master issued "directly by the University" and the transcript from the University (I hope I will actually receive both as promised) will look like.

Is your diploma and transcript in Spanish or English? 

I got the diploma and transcript today as well, but in Spanish. I've emailed them today asking for English versions instead of Spanish.

1. The diploma looks exactly as the mock-up on the convalidation landing page. https://eneb.com/convunisebusd/
   
2. Universidad Isabel I | UNISEB is mentioned up top, it is signed by the Academic Director of UNISEB (from ISEB), and also by the Rector of Ui1, with the raised seal of Ui1, but issued by ISEB. 
   
3. The Transcript is the same way with Ui1 and UNISEB mentioned, with no ECTS, and only the hours.  
   
4. Convalidated Modules on the Transcript do not have a grade, instead it says 'conv"
   
5. Will there be a directly issued diploma from Ui1 as promised without mention of ISEB, or is this it (I don't know yet)
   
6. We will have to submit to ECE to see if it makes a difference. 
   

At present, my feeling is I paid $560, did some more coursework, and got a much nicer looking diploma and transcript. That's not too bad, actually, because I dread the appearance of the ENEB Diplomas. It might sound shallow, but I do care about aesthetics and like things that look beautiful, such as the ISEB/UNISEB diplomas. Even the regular ISEB diplomas in my view are an improvement in color scheme and presentation over ENEB diplomas.

Anyways, I am very much interested in an ISEB course this time, and willing to take it in Spanish. I have inquired about it and would be happy to take it at a reasonable cost. Waiting to hear back at this time.

As this diploma is not the typical UNISEB Diploma, it might be it. Normally the UNISEB Diplomas look different than this one.

Normally there are ISEB Programs which are different from the UNISEB Programs:
Normal ISEB Diplomas are also supplemented by a UI1 Certificate, exactly like ENEB + Ui1.
Normal UNISEB Diplomas from ISEB look different than the regular ISEB diplomas, and are also supplemented by a Ui1 Certificate.

Because this convalidation has the signature and seal of UI1, there might not be any further documentation provided. Will have to follow up and ask to find out.

My diploma and transcript are also in Spanish. I also feel like the UNISEB diploma is way more visually appealing than the ENEB one. That said, I agree that we should still receive a degree issued directly from Universidad Isabel I as was mentioned in the marketing material. This doesn't do it for me. We weren't promised a title issued by ISEB and certified by UNISEB/ISEB. That is basically what ENEB x UI1 certificate was. This time, we should receive a degree and transcript directly from the University as if we would have enrolled in a propio/FP máster there. I have already contacted the diplomas department about this. I have also saved the marketing material in case they deny it. If this diploma is the only one we receive, I'll most likely try to get my money back via PayPal as this then would've been false advertisement. They explicitly state that what makes UNISEB convalidation different from the ENEB master is a degree directly issued by UI1. This diploma doesn't mention a degree issued/expedited directly by UI1. 
Let's see what they reply to my query.