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European International University
EIU is NOT a recognized degree-granting institution in France. France allows businesses to set up and award unofficial degrees, but that is hardly the same thing. I liken it to California's old "Authorized" category: We'll let you do it, but we don't approve.

The proof is in the outcome: a degree no one will recognize as being comparable to accredited or properly approved.

There is a lot of obfuscation in this thread trying to hide that simple fact.
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At this point, this discussion has become increasingly repetitive, circular, and, frankly, inappropriate.

The evidence has already been presented, and readers can review it for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

At this stage, your responses increasingly suggest an unwillingness to engage with evidence and instead substituting your own narrative for the facts and treating it as reality.

As for this comment : 
"The proof is in the outcome: a degree no one will recognize as being comparable to accredited or properly approved."

According to that statement, the UAE Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific Research, the Saudi Ministry of Education, and IEE are apparently "no one."

With those documented examples, the statement that "no one" recognizes the degree cannot literally be true.

When statements are presented without acknowledging the documented evidence already discussed, readers who have not followed the entire thread may understandably come away with an inaccurate impression of the available evidence regarding this educational pathway.

Such repeated disregard of documented evidence undermines meaningful discussion and makes it increasingly difficult for others to engage in a constructive, evidence-based exchange.
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Degrees from unofficial sources like this are not evaluated by NACES members as being equivalent to degrees from accredited schools in the U.S.

The French system allows this practice, but it doesn't regulate it. Schools like this would be called "unaccedited" if they operated in the U.S. Their degrees are routinely treated as such.

Repeating false statements does not make them true. And the more one must explain it, the less legitimate it is.
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(07-08-2026, 12:04 AM)Sagan Wrote: Degrees from unofficial sources like this are not evaluated by NACES members as being equivalent to degrees from accredited schools in the U.S.

The French system allows this practice, but it doesn't regulate it. Schools like this would be called "unaccedited" if they operated in the U.S. Their degrees are routinely treated as such.

Repeating false statements does not make them true. And the more one must explain it, the less legitimate it is.
To be fair, EIU Paris's BBA, MBA, and DBA programs are accredited by ACBSP.

The real issue isn't whether ACBSP is legitimate—it is a recognized programmatic accreditor. 

The question is whether ACBSP accreditation alone is enough to establish the legitimacy of these degrees when EIU itself is not recognized by the French government as a higher education institution.

I think ACBSP is enough. I'd be interested to hear more thoughts
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EIU is recognized as a distance learning center by the French education ministry complete with its own UAI code in the education ministry's database, but it's a private school and therefore not accredited by the ministry.

I view this situation like a step up from a school offering Spanish propios. Spain considers schools offering propios as valid but does not recognize them in the government education database. While in France, a similar school offering similar programs is recognized by name and coded in the government database.

People are confusing the education database and what it takes to get in there versus a business registration. These things are separate and different. If a person/group in France wants to open a school they have to register as a business which is easy, but they cannot start teaching and cannot offer diplomas until they and their curriculum have been vetted and have successfully registered with the education department. Successful registration is not guaranteed, many are denied, and offering diplomas without official government registration is illegal in France.

I have now seen about 10 successful foreign credential evaluations of EIU degrees so it's bizarre at best (lying at worst) that some are saying the degrees aren't being considered as such by anyone. However, all of them were business degrees. The interesting part is that most of these successful evaluations were done before EIU ever had ACBSP accreditation, so my previous thought that the evaluation success may be attributed to ACBSP accreditation was off.
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(07-08-2026, 12:04 AM)Sagan Wrote: Degrees from unofficial sources like this are not evaluated by NACES members as being equivalent to degrees from accredited schools in the U.S.

There have been multiple NACES evaluations as equivalents to U.S. degrees, and the evaluations didn’t say equivalent to a degree from an unaccredited institution in the U.S.
Most of the evaluations were done without ACBSP accreditation in the picture. ACBSP accreditation was only attained in the summer of 2025. It shows that ASIC UK + UAI are enough, thus adding ACBSP to the equation only enhances, not derail it.

Since you are comparing EIU-Paris to a state-authorized US institution:
A school that is State authorized / licensed in the U.S. is considered unaccredited yes, but that doesn’t mean they are unlawful nor does it mean that there’s no acceptance whatsoever.

On that topic:

Please feel free to give an example of such unaccredited U.S. schools that carry ACBSP accreditation (CHEA recognized) along with ASIC UK (CHEA listed), and NACES equivalency evaluations for students in multiple instances?

There are several schools registered in Paris operating out of the same framework as EIU (of which few can say they have both ASIC UK + ACBSP), why is there so much focus on EIU-Paris? 

Meanwhile making statements such as:

"no one will recognize as being comparable to accredited or properly approved" 

as well as 

"not evaluated by NACES members as being equivalent to degrees from accredited schools in the U.S." 

Are simply off the mark.
 
But let’s agree that a state authorized unaccredited school in the U.S. would very closely align with a private school that has a UAI registration in France, however that school would also need to gain ASIC UK and ACBSP accreditations, consist of graduates who consistently show favorable official NACES evaluations, and have documented acceptance by government agencies in at least 2 countries, to be in the same conversation as EIU-Paris.

Also when a school then later gets its programs listed on France Competances RNCP, it officially becomes fully recognized. Not saying this has happened, but we know that’s their aim. 
Private Schools in France do this all the time, start with UAI, gain more accreditation, then get specific programs listed on the RNCP. (Such as ABC Paris, which is fully recognized on that basis https://www.american-business-college-paris.com/)

Until then, can treat it as being comparable to a US state-authorized/Licensed unaccredited school, that happens to have 2 CHEA listed accreditors and multiple favorable NACES evaluation outcomes for its students, along with documented acceptance by government agencies such as those in Saudi Arabia and UAE.

To Sagan: I appreciate your experience and perspective on higher education. From following your posts, your position seems to be that the primary value of higher education comes from official government-accredited qualifications outside the U.S., or regionally or nationally accredited institutions within the U.S. 

Others may place greater weight on documented outcomes (e.g., favorable NACES-member evaluations, progression into further academic studies, equivalency decisions by foreign government agencies) and practical utility. The evidence and viewpoints are now on the thread for others to review and draw their own conclusions.

One way to evaluate a qualification is by asking whether it is officially recognized or accredited. Another is to ask what documented outcomes it produces in practice.
Questions such as:
  • Does it receive favorable NACES-member evaluations? Yes
  • Does it allow progression into further academic study? Yes
  • Has it received favorable equivalency decisions by foreign government agencies? Yes
These questions focus on the outcomes of a qualification. Others might concentrate on the recognition of a qualification or institutional reputation. Both options can be valid, but some people choose different models depending on their circumstances.
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The more you explain it, the less robust the argument is.

Recognition by a third-rate programmatic accreditor might help with the business degrees, but it would be a very good idea to be certain of that ahead of time.

As for the rest of it, the school can be considered comparable to being unaccredited. France provides quite the loophole for such operations.

As with all such things, it is important that one is as certain as possible that the degree (and source) sought will meet one's present and future needs.
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(07-08-2026, 11:29 AM)Sagan Wrote: The more you explain it, the less robust the argument is.

Recognition by a third-rate programmatic accreditor might help with the business degrees, but it would be a very good idea to be certain of that ahead of time.

As for the rest of it, the school can be considered comparable to being unaccredited. France provides quite the loophole for such operations.

As with all such things, it is important that one is as certain as possible that the degree (and source) sought will meet one's present and future needs.

Thank you for your input and insight, as always.
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Exceptions do not prove the rule. If pursuing a degree from an unrecognized school meets your present and future needs, fine. But if someone suggests a broad recommendation of such a course, run.
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(07-08-2026, 09:40 PM)Sagan Wrote: Exceptions do not prove the rule. If pursuing a degree from an unrecognized school meets your present and future needs, fine. But if someone suggests a broad recommendation of such a course, run.

It isnt an unrecognized school if it is registered as a school with the government.

Your earlier argument was that it wasn’t a state-sanctioned university in France, which is true. It isnt a university in France, but it is a legal, government recognized school.
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