European International University

[eLearner]

https://www.citizenperspective.com/2026/...-fake.html someone is trying hard to show what this degree mill really does . worth reading indeed! eiuparis is getting exposed

1. With the first allegation involving someone by the name of Rafeeu, the link is claiming that he was accepted and awarded a degree on the same day, but the proof image posted there doesn't show that. It only shows the person being accepted and admitted into the program.

2. The link goes into the national diploma vs. institutional diploma matter, but at this point everyone who has discussed this already knows the difference between a national diploma and an institutional diploma in France. It feels like this keeps being brought up because EIU's detractors think it sounds bad, but it actually doesn't sound bad. It's just the way France's system works. EIU isn't misrepresenting that they're offering institutional diplomas rather than national diplomas. They say so on their site.

3. "However, legal registration as an educational provider does not automatically mean that every qualification awarded carries the status of a French state-recognized university degree."

We all know that institutional diplomas (which EIU is legally allowed to offer) aren't national diplomas. By writing that way, it is a poor attempt at trying to reframe something as bad when we already know it isn't.

4. The writer claims that the Foreign Minister of The Maldives was admitted and received her degree on the same day, but with zero material proof. The picture provided simply shows an accusation, the student's face, and zero proof of the accusation.

The same pattern of claiming that someone was admitted and awarded a degree on the same day continues throughout, but with zero material proof.

5. Then jabs are directed at the school about the size and location of one of its physical offices. But the writer of that article would be shocked to find a lot of distance learning programs across the United States and other parts of the world that are operated from small, shared office spaces and strip malls. This is literally irrelevant.

6. "EIU openly maintains an operational presence in Bangkok. Whistleblower allegations suggest that significant administrative functions may historically have been carried out there."

Bangkok, Bangkok, BANGKOK. No one cares that they have operations in Bangkok, lol. Why does this keep being mentioned? It's irrelevant. And from what I can tell, the school has never concealed the fact that they are operating in multiple countries. In fact, they advertise it. That is totally normal.

7. Earning a Bachelor's degree in 1-year (or less) is done quite often in the United States. CBE/self-paced programs make that possible. There have been whole groups created just around the process of testing out of courses quickly and earning a Bachelor's degree in under a year. That's not even a real issue in this country, but maybe it's looked at as an issue where the writer lives?

HOWEVER...

8. The ONLY legitimate concern I have is with the potential backdating, and only if those proof documents are real. That's something that the school would need to address. In the end though, the biggest concern is whether or not the student worked through all of those years or not. If they did, then that's good. If not, then that's total fraud.

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...8. The ONLY legitimate concern I have is with the potential backdating, and only if those proof documents are real. That's something that the school would need to address. In the end though, the biggest concern is whether or not the student worked through all of those years or not. If they did, then that's good. If not, then that's total fraud......

Ph.D. graduates from these universities face a higher risk of being associated with negative publicity. They often have to spend a significant amount of time and effort defending the legitimacy of their degree and the reputation of the institution. Therefore,  recommending these universities is not advisable.

[eLearner]

Ph.D. graduates from these universities face a higher risk of being associated with negative publicity. They often have to spend a significant amount of time and effort defending the legitimacy of their degree and the reputation of the institution. 

I'm not so sure about that in this case. EIU is relatively unknown to the general public. The most I ever hear about it are various unsubstantiated hit pieces and hit posts from what appears to be the same guy across various websites.

EIU has a lot more patience with this than I would have. I like to sue, lol.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

Ph.D. graduates from these universities face a higher risk of being associated with negative publicity. They often have to spend a significant amount of time and effort defending the legitimacy of their degree and the reputation of the institution. 

I'm not so sure about that in this case. EIU is relatively unknown to the general public. The most I ever hear about it are various unsubstantiated hit pieces and hit posts from what appears to be the same guy across various websites.

EIU has a lot more patience with this than I would have. I like to sue, lol.

For degrees awarded through VAE at EIU, it is not simply a matter of paying a fee. Documentation must be provided to support the mapping of prior experience to course credits. Both a transcript and detailed VAE mapping are prepared, and the process typically takes 3–6 weeks. EIU also conducts partial VAE in some cases rather than awarding a complete degree through VAE, so additional coursework may still be required.

As for the person who appears to be repeatedly posting the same content, I suspect this may be a disgruntled former employee (not too dissimilar from the UoP situation) or former business partner. If you search a little further, there is a platform that is no longer affiliated with EIU, and the founder of that platform also claims to be a founder of EIU. That history may provide some context for why certain posts online appear to be personally directed at the school's current and founding Director General, who is, to say the least, quite a colorful character.

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I've been trying to read this thread and it's quite exhausting tbh.

Can someone provide a TL;DR of what is the ACTUAL value of European International University?

Does it actually hold any real weight in the U.S. and Canada? Through what foreign credential evaluation service is a degree/diploma from here equivalent too (RA/NA, undergrad/grad)?

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

I've been trying to read this thread and it's quite exhausting tbh.

Can someone provide a TL;DR of what is the ACTUAL value of European International University?

Does it actually hold any real weight in the U.S. and Canada? Through what foreign credential evaluation service is a degree/diploma from here equivalent too (RA/NA, undergrad/grad)?

Certainly. You are too funny. You posted something almost exactly like this on the ENEB thread back in January after an enormous amount of discussion had already taken place. Back then, instead of describing the thread as "exhausting," you described it as "polluted." I took that as your six-month "welcome to the forum" message to me, delivered publicly. But I am not holding a grudge, at least not anymore. Here you go, TL;DR:

EIU-Paris has a UAI registration in France as a distance-learning center, but it is not part of the French national higher-education system and does not issue nationally recognized French degrees. Its degrees are institutional awards, so conceptually they are somewhat similar to Spanish títulos propios.

The interesting part is how they have been treated by U.S. foreign credential evaluators. Evaluators that have reviewed EIU credentials have not necessarily downgraded the degree level. An EIU BBA, for example, can still receive a full U.S. bachelor's degree/BBA equivalency, while the evaluator separately qualifies the institutional status. Some evaluators essentially say that it is equivalent to a U.S. degree but explain that EIU does not have full recognition within its home country's national higher-education system, leaving acceptance to the discretion of employers, colleges, and universities.

Another NACES evaluator has used the more direct formulation of a U.S. degree equivalency earned at an institution that is not regionally accredited in the United States, but programmatically accredited by ACBSP for the ACBSP-accredited DBA, MBA, and BBA programs. If the particular program is not ACBSP-accredited, obviously that final part would not apply.

EIU also has ASIC accreditation. Some people will tell you ASIC is meaningless, and I am not going to reopen that entire debate here. However, ASIC is listed in CHEA's International Directory, so it is at least something that can be documented and considered. That should not be confused with ACBSP, which is itself a CHEA-recognized programmatic accreditor.

The ACBSP piece is probably the more interesting one. Certain EIU BBA, MBA, and DBA programs have ACBSP programmatic accreditation. ACBSP's published eligibility criteria require a U.S. institution to have regional institutional accreditation before its business programs can qualify for ACBSP accreditation. Foreign institutions are handled under a different recognition framework. So, where ACBSP accreditation applies to the specific EIU program, it is a meaningful positive, and credential evaluators may expressly recognize it in their reports.

EIU has also recently introduced its New Economy Degrees, which use stackable micro-credentials toward bachelor's, master's, and even doctoral-level awards. They are surprisingly inexpensive. If you actually look at the total pricing, some of these pathways start getting reasonably close to ENEB territory, which makes them potentially interesting for people who understand what EIU is and what it is not.

So the shortest version is:

• EIU = institutional award, but not a nationally recognized French degree. U.S. evaluators can still give it full U.S. degree-level equivalency, but with qualifications concerning the institution's recognition/accreditation status. It has ASIC accreditation, and certain programs have the more significant ACBSP programmatic accreditation. The newer Economy Degrees are also extremely affordable and currently have ASIC UK accreditation, not ACBSP programmatic accreditation. Whether all of that makes EIU worthwhile depends entirely on what you intend to do with the degree and how much explaining you are comfortable doing afterward. 

• For some people, this is a clear "No thanks, I will stay away." For others, it is something they would consider. One of the simplest ways to describe EIU in U.S. terms is as a foreign analogue to a state-registered, unaccredited institution whose awards nevertheless have independent accreditation/quality-assurance credentials from two organizations listed by CHEA in different capacities, and whose degrees can receive NACES evaluations as full U.S. degree equivalents, albeit with varying levels of disclaimers regarding institutional recognition or accreditation. It is an unusual combination, which is why the answer to "Is it worth it?" really depends on the intended use.

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I've been trying to read this thread and it's quite exhausting tbh.

Can someone provide a TL;DR of what is the ACTUAL value of European International University?

Does it actually hold any real weight in the U.S. and Canada? Through what foreign credential evaluation service is a degree/diploma from here equivalent too (RA/NA, undergrad/grad)?

Certainly. You are too funny. You posted something almost exactly like this on the ENEB thread back in January after an enormous amount of discussion had already taken place. Back then, instead of describing the thread as "exhausting," you described it as "polluted." I took that as your six-month "welcome to the forum" message to me, delivered publicly. But I am not holding a grudge, at least not anymore. Here you go, TL;DR:

EIU-Paris has a UAI registration in France as a distance-learning center, but it is not part of the French national higher-education system and does not issue nationally recognized French degrees. Its degrees are institutional awards, so conceptually they are somewhat similar to Spanish títulos propios.

The interesting part is how they have been treated by U.S. foreign credential evaluators. Evaluators that have reviewed EIU credentials have not necessarily downgraded the degree level. An EIU BBA, for example, can still receive a full U.S. bachelor's degree/BBA equivalency, while the evaluator separately qualifies the institutional status. Some evaluators essentially say that it is equivalent to a U.S. degree but explain that EIU does not have full recognition within its home country's national higher-education system, leaving acceptance to the discretion of employers, colleges, and universities.

Another NACES evaluator has used the more direct formulation of a U.S. degree equivalency earned at an institution that is not regionally accredited in the United States, but programmatically accredited by ACBSP for the ACBSP-accredited DBA, MBA, and BBA programs. If the particular program is not ACBSP-accredited, obviously that final part would not apply.

EIU also has ASIC accreditation. Some people will tell you ASIC is meaningless, and I am not going to reopen that entire debate here. However, ASIC is listed in CHEA's International Directory, so it is at least something that can be documented and considered. That should not be confused with ACBSP, which is itself a CHEA-recognized programmatic accreditor.

The ACBSP piece is probably the more interesting one. Certain EIU BBA, MBA, and DBA programs have ACBSP programmatic accreditation. ACBSP's published eligibility criteria require a U.S. institution to have regional institutional accreditation before its business programs can qualify for ACBSP accreditation. Foreign institutions are handled under a different recognition framework. So, where ACBSP accreditation applies to the specific EIU program, it is a meaningful positive, and credential evaluators may expressly recognize it in their reports.

EIU has also recently introduced its New Economy Degrees, which use stackable micro-credentials toward bachelor's, master's, and even doctoral-level awards. They are surprisingly inexpensive. If you actually look at the total pricing, some of these pathways start getting reasonably close to ENEB territory, which makes them potentially interesting for people who understand what EIU is and what it is not.

So the shortest version is:

• EIU = institutional award, but not a nationally recognized French degree. U.S. evaluators can still give it full U.S. degree-level equivalency, but with qualifications concerning the institution's recognition/accreditation status. It has ASIC accreditation, and certain programs have the more significant ACBSP programmatic accreditation. The newer Economy Degrees are also extremely affordable and currently have ASIC UK accreditation, not ACBSP programmatic accreditation. Whether all of that makes EIU worthwhile depends entirely on what you intend to do with the degree and how much explaining you are comfortable doing afterward. 

• For some people, this is a clear "No thanks, I will stay away." For others, it is something they would consider. One of the simplest ways to describe EIU in U.S. terms is as a foreign analogue to a state-registered, unaccredited institution whose awards nevertheless have independent accreditation/quality-assurance credentials from two organizations listed by CHEA in different capacities, and whose degrees can receive NACES evaluations as full U.S. degree equivalents, albeit with varying levels of disclaimers regarding institutional recognition or accreditation. It is an unusual combination, which is why the answer to "Is it worth it?" really depends on the intended use.

Anything I say is almost never directed at anyone here (maliciously) on the forum. I still stand by the word "Polluted" for ENEB and as it accurately describes many of these "unbeknownst to whom" universities we talk about here time-to-time IMHO.

ACBSP is good, AACSB would be more preferable. Still very wordy, but it's a bit easier than reading 25 pages of who knows what. From what I'm taking at from a quick glance here is that some programs have accreditation, maybe not all, so that means something (good or bad).

When I read massive pages or posts like this, I look at this from the eyes of a new member. Brevity is key. I see a lot of words, but I'm trying to develop a first impression (as a new member). If it were me, I would skip reading all of this and assume going to this school isn't worth it and just stick with TESU, UMPI, WGU, or the other main ones and not have to worry about it. The longer it takes to explain something in my view, the less comfortable I feel about this school as I'm inclined to believe that it's a guessing game compared to just going to any public college/university in the U.S. 

My question for you would be: can you answer these 4 questions in 3 sentences or less?

Question 1: Has anyone completed a degree from here?
Question 2: Has anyone got a job because they graduated from this school?
Question 3: How many undergrad or grad credits is/are they worth in the U.S.?
Question 4: Is it an RA/NA Undergrad/Grad equivalent when it comes back to me from a NACES evaluation (If I got the eval paper/doc back to me, what would it say)?

And from my super quick read on this thread, I don't think any of those super important questions were answered. Therefore, in my opinion, this place isn't worth me investing any time, money, or energy towards. The more wordy it is, the less I believe that this school is worth reading about.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

Anything I say is almost never directed at anyone here (maliciously) on the forum. I still stand by the word "Polluted" for ENEB and as it accurately describes many of these "unbeknownst to whom" universities we talk about here time-to-time IMHO.

ACBSP is good, AACSB would be more preferable. Still very wordy, but it's a bit easier than reading 25 pages of who knows what. From what I'm taking at from a quick glance here is that some programs have accreditation, maybe not all, so that means something (good or bad).

When I read massive pages or posts like this, I look at this from the eyes of a new member. Brevity is key. I see a lot of words, but I'm trying to develop a first impression (as a new member). If it were me, I would skip reading all of this and assume going to this school isn't worth it and just stick with TESU, UMPI, WGU, or the other main ones and not have to worry about it. The longer it takes to explain something in my view, the less comfortable I feel about this school as I'm inclined to believe that it's a guessing game compared to just going to any public college/university in the U.S. 

My question for you would be: can you answer these 4 questions in 3 sentences or less?

Question 1: Has anyone completed a degree from here?
Question 2: Has anyone got a job because they graduated from this school?
Question 3: How many undergrad or grad credits is/are they worth in the U.S.?
Question 4: Is it an RA/NA Undergrad/Grad equivalent when it comes back to me from a NACES evaluation (If I got the eval paper/doc back to me, what would it say)?

And from my super quick read on this thread, I don't think any of those super important questions were answered. Therefore, in my opinion, this place isn't worth me investing any time, money, or energy towards. The more wordy it is, the less I believe that this school is worth reading about.

For ENEB, your comment came after 3 months of discussion of the UNISEB and Unimarconi upgrade pathways, and those developments had already been summarized twice for others. So I think "polluted" says more about your willingness to read the discussion than about the quality of the information that was being shared.

As for your four questions, in three sentences: Many people have completed EIU degrees, and most recently, an EIU graduate obtained a position at UNICEF, with the employment subsequently verified by UNICEF. Credits convert to standard U.S. semester credits, and NACES evaluations I have seen have given full U.S. degree equivalency: IEE states U.S. degree equivalency without characterizing it as RA or NA, while JSA states U.S. degree equivalency at an institution that is not regionally accredited and, for the ACBSP-accredited DBA, MBA, and BBA programs, additionally notes the ACBSP programmatic accreditation and references CHEA. Given the rather extensive collection of degrees in your signature, including multiple degrees from TESU and UMPI and several more currently in progress, I wasn't sure whether you were actually considering an EIU program or were asking primarily to reaffirm your preference for sticking with the more conventional options.

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For ENEB, your comment came after 5 months of discussion of the UNISEB and Unimarconi upgrade pathways, and those developments had already been summarized twice for others. So I think "polluted" says more about your willingness to read the discussion than about the quality of the information that was being shared.

As for your four questions, in three sentences: Many people have completed EIU degrees, and most recently, an EIU graduate obtained a position at UNICEF, with the employment subsequently verified by UNICEF. Credits convert to standard U.S. semester credits, and NACES evaluations I have seen have given full U.S. degree equivalency: IEE states U.S. degree equivalency without characterizing it as RA or NA, while JSA states U.S. degree equivalency at an institution that is not regionally accredited and, for the ACBSP-accredited DBA, MBA, and BBA programs, additionally notes the ACBSP programmatic accreditation and references CHEA.Given the rather extensive collection of degrees in your signature, including multiple degrees from TESU and UMPI and several more currently in progress, I wasn't sure whether you were actually considering an EIU program or were asking primarily to validate your preference for sticking with the more conventional options.

Are people discussing about the same things in the threads? I would say yes, and this adds length on top of what is being discussed about ENEB and people circle back to answer the same questions. I don't care enough to really argue over using what word there. It wasn't malicious, it wasn't directed at anyone, and it describes what I see. Fair game. I've completed a couple of ENEB diplomas, they're not very difficult to complete or get goods grades for (did both traditional and alternate methodology), however, we have a wiki page discussing about possible transfer credits for them. So it's worth it for grad credits. 

We have to remember that before the new ENEB page, there was another one that was almost or over 100 pages long. Now we have a new one that is racking up a ton of pages, and I'm sure a lot of it consists of arguing, anecdotes, and answering the same questions, and maybe some add value. I'm not willing to invest the time to read all of those, but when I see a particular comment that stands out, sure, I'll read it, and it usually does enough justice for me weigh in on whether or not it's worth investing more time reading about. I recognize this is just one big blog, so people are free to write whatever, but when I read these, I'm keeping in mind the perspective of other users, and I don't believe many would be willing to read massive threads like that, neither would I. Just because something's long doesn't mean that there's a lot of quality there, same can be said about short threads. When it doesn't highlight the quality/worth/value of something, or it doesn't get to the point, it serves no purpose to me other than white noise. 

When I read something here on the forum, I analyze it like this: "Is this something that is WORTH mentioning in our wiki(s)?" If not, it's noise to me. At the end of a day, it's like school; what do I need to extrapolate and what is the value of this information? Subjective? Sure, depending on what you do with it. Objective? There are things that should be concrete and clear, and that is what I am always searching for first, and I think that has made me a great researcher over the years. Usually, it's those 4 questions that I ask myself and evaluate content/posts based off of when looking at places such as this. If it's something that I believes helps someone move along in the process of getting a degree or answers a question, I'll add to it, and it's usually precise with no fluff and a direct link(s) to what they need. Brevity (single-handedly the best skill anyone can master to communicate the value of information).

From what I've read from your response, I've come to the conclusion of this:

Question 1: Has anyone completed a degree from here? Yes, many people have graduated from here (Good).

Question 2: Has anyone got a job because they graduated from this school? One recent graduate got a job at UNICEF (Good, and based on the previous answer, I feel safe to assume others have gotten jobs from here).

Question 3: How many undergrad or grad credits is/are they worth in the U.S.? They're converted to semester hours in the U.S., but we don't know if anyone has had success transferring these credits to any U.S.-based college/university (Bad?).

Question 4: Is it an RA/NA Undergrad/Grad equivalent when it comes back to me from a NACES evaluation (If I got the eval paper/doc back to me, what would it say)? They don't come back as RA or NA, just as an equivalent (Bad? Definitely concerning as this impacts Question 3).

I will consider any program outside of the U.S. so long as we have objective proof on this forum so long as it's worth the same weight as public college/university here in the states without question. If it is questionable, it better only be a couple hundred bucks like ENEB. U.S.-based systems just happen to be less of a headache for me as there are many institutions here that have global recognition. If those schools here in the U.S. have no problem taking credits and recognizing the value of a public college/university here in the U.S., then I have no real concerns, plus enough people talk about them that any worries are quickly dismissed. Places such as these, I have to scratch my head because it's a gamble on what it's value is going to be.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

Fair enough. Just two small clarifications on #3 and #4. For #3, U.S. semester-credit equivalency and actual transferability are two different questions; evaluators can assign U.S. semester credits, but whether a particular U.S. college accepts those credits for transfer is ultimately up to that institution. I have successfully used my EIU degree for admission to postgraduate study at an Italian university, so I can personally confirm academic acceptance in that context, although that obviously isn't the same thing as transferring EIU credits into a U.S. university.

For #4, the NACES outcomes I have seen actually differ by evaluator. IEE gives the full U.S. degree equivalency without characterizing it as RA or NA, while JSA gives the full U.S. degree equivalency and explicitly characterizes the institution as not regionally accredited, while also noting ACBSP programmatic accreditation where applicable.

Given the standard you've explained in your edit, though, I think you've basically reached the same bottom line I was trying to convey earlier. If your threshold is that a foreign degree should carry essentially the same unquestioned utility as a conventional U.S. public-university degree, EIU probably isn't for you. There are much simpler options for someone who wants that level of certainty. That said, your point about price is actually relevant to EIU's recently introduced New Economy Degrees. 

They now offer 56 of these programs, and at the bachelor's level the degree consists of 18 micro-credentials. Based on the currently advertised pricing, the total cost is approximately €690 including the graduation fee, so these are now much closer to the inexpensive ENEB-type price range you mentioned.
 
They carry EIU's ASIC UK institutional accreditation, although not the ACBSP programmatic accreditation of EIU's separately accredited business programs, and I would expect the same type of U.S. degree-equivalency treatment without an RA or NA characterization. So at that price point, I can certainly see how the risk/reward calculation might be different for some people.

Personally, I have enough other degrees and credentials that I don't need my EIU degree for any particular purpose anymore, so I don't have much invested in convincing anyone else to pursue one. I just think it's useful to describe accurately what it is, what evaluators have actually said about it, and let people decide whether that has value for their own situation.