My Ongoing Argument with COSC on CSU Global CBEs

[sanantone]

:roflol:banghead Welcome to my world; if its above their head or pay level... they [staff wherever] prefer to just ignore the question!

Anyhow, I don't see how they could say they won't take the CSU exam credits. I mean, they are credits from a regionally accredited college, and surely they wouldn't be able to give out credits for those exams and still be regionally accredited if the accrediting body didn't think they measured up to being equal to material learned in a course. I'd continue to fight this one if I were you... it sounds to me like an ignorant adviser. How do they even know that CSU doesn't put them on the CSU transcripts? Have you checked that for yourself? Is this a situation where you could actually enroll in CSU, have the credits put on a transcript, and then send them over to COSC? I know you're smart, and you've probably though of all this already, but to me this just seems silly.



TESU is just odd sometimes. I had a level 111 math course from a community college that I was required to take, that basically taught you how to use your TI-83 calculator (dumb, right?), TESC wouldn't give me credit for it but then left me with an odd number of credits needed like 12.67. It seemed to me like they should have just taken that course for credit and knocked off that .67.

TESU's advisors will hang up the phone on you if your questions are too difficult, so that's why I try to only email them. :p At least with their business school, you often get an answer from a senior advisor, director, or assistant director. When you call them, you get whoever they just hired and trained for a few hours. A few years ago when I was complaining about an advisor giving me the wrong answer and hanging up the phone on me on the TESC message board, the head of academic advising chastised me for waiting until the last minute not allowing enough time to send an email. He didn't care that one of his employees was rude and misinformed. The only reason why I waited until the last minute was because my academic advisor refused to help me plan my degree weeks earlier during an advisement appointment. He ended up deleting his ridiculous message board responses. Luckily, TESU has gotten better on the advisement end, and the registrar almost always gives good information. Anyway, they're pretty picky about accepting anything that could be considered developmental.

I don't know how to escalate this at COSC. The emails are from the registrar.

You are correct Sanantone, it makes absolutely no sense! They should apply their own rules consistently. If it's taken from a college, and credits are given by that college, then they should be accepted, regardless of how that college treats the credits for their OWN residency requirements. That should not matter in the least. EC puts their UExcel exams on their transcript, but designates them with an X. The only difference is that EC does not have a residency requirement, so their not giving it "residency" status is only because of that reason. In the future if they did something similar to TESU and had an optional residency requirement, and did NOT let UExcel's count towards that, I guess all of those exams would be out at COSC too?

My hubby is signed up to take the CSU Global courses, I'm interested to see how they send the credit to him. Did you get a transcript from CSU-Global for yours? What did it look like?

CSU Global does put the CBEs on the transcript; they just mark them with an "EX" similar to how Excelsior marks Uexcels with an "X." This is what COSC is reading off of their website.

CBEs are considered nonresident credits, and they will apply toward an undergraduate degree at CSU-Global. If you transfer to another institution, that receiving institution may or may not accept your CBE credits, at their discretion.

I would be fine with COSC not accept non-resident credits if they were being consistent and their rationale made sense. Since they evaluate non-academic credentials all the time for college credits, I don't see why they can't do the same for CSU Global CBEs.

The only reason why I'm interested in a health informatics or health information management degree is because they're the easiest and cheapest programs to complete online that meet USPHS requirements. USPHS no longer accepts research social scientists or mental health professionals other than licensed clinical social workers, which I think is weird because LCSWs probably have the least education in treating various mental health and behavioral disorders. Many in the USPHS Corps end up working for the Bureau of Prisons and Indian Health Services, so you would think that they would need psychologists, LMFTs, LPC/LMHCs, and substance abuse counselors. I could apply directly to IHS, but there aren't as many benefits and flexibility.

COSC and WGU both have the required CAHIIM accreditation. CSU Global has a few CBEs that could possibly fit into COSC's program. I'm not paying $363 per credit hour to complete several COSC courses, so WGU is the best option at this point. I just need to earn a qualifying IT certification since I don't have the IT or healthcare experience for admission. Another option is utilizing TESU's partnership with Rutgers. If I have this right, you complete everything but 12 HIM credits through TESU. Of course, TESU will let you transfer in everything else. After that, you transfer to Rutgers to complete the remaining 12 credits, but Rutgers is expensive, and I think you have to do your practicum at one of their contract sites in New Jersey.