(05-07-2020, 03:17 AM)rachel83az Wrote: You're not getting any "more" out of a B&M education, except maybe it's easier to form study groups. B&M schools do overcharge, but that has nothing to do with distance learning vs. in-person education.That's not true. Most of the people in the degree programs mentioned in this site, me included never actually have a teacher to student relationship.
I do agree with the idea that dorm fees, dinging fees, etc. should be refunded. There's no reason for the university to keep that money except to line their own pockets.
The online degrees from these schools are essentially check in the box pieces of paper. You never understand a concept to a higher level like a person who has to debate that concept in front of a group of other bright students at a place like Rollins college or Berkeley, nevermind the Ivy's.
You'll never get a professor the quality of someone like Ken Gemes, or Barbara Oakley and have personal access to them and take some of their habits and mannerisms. You and me are essentially just paying for these things and never going through the indoctrination period and learning how to defend ideas and make serious arguments in competitive environments.
If you're talking about going to community college and comparing that to a degree online where you log in post some stuff on blackboard and log off then yeah, it's the same. If you're comparing a person attending UCLA, Berkeley, Yale, UT Austin and list goes on, it's not even comparable if what you want is to learn and shoot off to a competitive environment and great career. I bet there are no millionaires in this forum, I do bet there's a bunch of underemployed people or career workers. Now go check the amount of millionaire's coming out of Stanford.
So yeah no misinformation please. Master programs from top schools with face to face meetings and video conferencing are the exception.