07-07-2020, 12:14 PM
(07-07-2020, 11:30 AM)LongRoad Wrote:(07-06-2020, 04:41 PM)natshar Wrote: If this is the case then this change isn't as big of a deal. Many people on this fourm already have RA credit or CLEP credit prior to start starting their journey here. Also, some plan on using CLEP, TECEP, DSST or RA credit all along. And still others would at least be open to doing CLEP or RA credit etc if they had to. Plus Idk where military falls into this. Sure this will affect some people but a lot of people on this fourm don't even use 90 ACE credits. Think of the adults that come in here with RA credit from years ago trying to finish their degree. And even if you take into account taking 24 cheap RA credit, it would be cheaper than TESU if you choose a cheap source for RA credit.
Sure these changes might affect some people, but it really isn't that big of a deal.
Also defining the big 3. The big 3 = the ability to transfer in most of your credits, at one time this was 120 credit. If any of the big 3 started requiring 30 credits AT THEIR SCHOOL then they wouldn't be in the big 3. This is why WGU isn't part of the big 3. The ACE part doesn't matter, the big 3 just means you can transfer in almost you whole degree. There are only 3 schools in the whole country that allow you to transfer in this much credit. Most schools require 30 credits in residence for a bachelors. That is what makes the big 3 unique and the big 3. The whole using CLEP, ACE, etc is just a loophole people found out along the way.
Natshar,
I might have had my degree DECADES ago if I had understood the concept of the Big-3. Back then, I gave a superficial read to ?Bear's? book about non-traditional learning, and didn't understand it. My recollection is spotty, but I'd be surprised if he didn't mention one if not all of the Big-3 as an option.
The Big-3 didn't become the Big-3 (I think) because they were supposed to be places where possibly suspect courses got credits at their schools. They became the Big-3 because folks like those in the military who moved from pillar to post got a few credits here, and some there, but not enough at one place at one time to get a degree. TESC and COSC and NY's school provided them with a way to harness those credits and get something out of them. So while some folks bemoan COSC's policy changes, I think it is an attempt to protect their brand and not become a diploma mill. Well, that's how I saw it.
I agree.
I think started as way for people with prior credit to finish their degree. Excelsiors enrollement is majority veterans/military. And here are millions of adults with tons of college credit but no degree. So I do think the big 3 is great way for people finish a degree for those people. I have at least 3 friends with over 100 credits, dropped out and no degree. Tried to convince them of the big 3 but they didn't seem to understand me.
Then I also had a classmate who had 115 credits towards her degree but then life circumstances got in the way. Years later, she had moved out of state and the final classes needed weren't online so she couldn't go back to the original school. So she transferred this new school and has to spend three semesters here getting the degree with the same major she intended at the original and she took out loans to do it. If she had known about the big three she could be done in matter of months and without loans.
TESU's motto was "education for adults" which means it is kind of obvious they aren't targeting the traditional college age student.
Yeah if everyone got their degree with all alt-credit it would ruin the schools rep and the value of a degree.


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