05-27-2021, 02:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2021, 03:04 PM by cacoleman1983.)
(05-27-2021, 11:30 AM)eLearner Wrote:Yeah it seems that the Spanish government is playing semantics although I get what they are doing in that the propio degrees by themselves allow universities to work with other companies with certification and without government oversight which makes their programs practically equivalent to a state-approved Masters degree here in the US although we are seeing accreditation based on transfer credit (ECTS) for less than a Masters due to university certification. I believe evaluators should start using the terms "state-approved" or "state-authorized" instead of "non-accredited". That will make these evaluations look much better to the employer since these Masters programs are not really meant for academic purposes.(05-27-2021, 09:33 AM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: The Master Universitario I Livello is equivalent to the Spanish version of the Master Propio degree. A vast majority of propio degrees are not considered equivalent to a US regionally accredited Masters degree because they do not grant access to a doctorate degree and are not recognized by the Spanish government. Some US evaluators will not evaluate propio degrees at all while others only equate them to graduate credit only, a graduate certificate, an additional accredited Bachelors, or non-accredited Masters. However, this may be different in Italy as the government themselves may recognize it there which may lead an evaluator to recognize it as an accredited Masters.
All facts. Although, as I use them myself, I wonder sometimes about how we use the terms "recognized" and "registered" in the Spanish education sense. I bring this up because, on the one hand the propio degree type is not registered by subject with the Spanish government, but on the other hand the degree type was established by the Spanish government itself and is legally authorized by them which would imply recognition at least in the associative sense.
I dunno, I just worry that when we use the term "not recognized" it makes people on the outside mistakenly equate it to "not legitimate" or something to that effect. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but there are still people who think nationally accredited degrees are not accredited despite the term itself implying accreditation, so it doesn't seem like much of a stretch.


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