ENEB Master Thread

[rachel83az]

Dumber,

You have focused on what I didn't understand about your point. Fine. You're the best interpreter of yourself. I would still want to know the following though: what was your goal in taking this program?

I am not expressing a personal interpretation. Who cares about what I have to say, thus dumber? I am presenting information based on best in the industry professional judgment. FYI, I am a collector of affordable degrees.

It really feels like you're trying to live up to your username, and I'm sure you're better than that. You are indeed presenting personal opinion as fact. The reality is that several people here have been able to use a degree from ENEB to meet whatever personal goals they might have. Even though nobody has ever said that this is a magical $300 degree that will work for everyone who needs a Master's, you seem bound and determined to somehow "prove" that it's not that magical degree. While it won't work for everyone, it's still an amazing deal if it will meet your goals.

I guess not as that would have been unfair. I know df is not a democracy, but appreciate being able to do my part in bringing a balance perspective to eneb.

The forum just... does this sometimes when one or more posts have previously been deleted from a given thread. It's pretty common. In the future, you should be able to see your post by opening a private/incognito window and visiting the forum without being logged in.

Also, your idea of bringing a "balanced perspective" is more like how Anakin brought "balance" to The Force by killing off all the Jedi.  

Getting close to the 1,000 mark on this thread.  Fun.  

ENEB is accredited by Universidad Isabel I.  Yes, accredited by them.  It works a little differently than the US because….. well…. They aren’t a US school.   Let’s not go looking for invisible hairs to split.  I doubt anyone thinks they are getting an American degree accredited by and American accreditor.  https://eneb.com/accreditations/

So, obviously it won’t work for someone who requires a RA degree.

No one is trying to sell it as anything other than what it is.  If a Spanish degree works, then so be it.  Great price for what it is.

Maybe someone just likes learning.  That works too.

Ya know what phrase I hate?…. Lipstick on a pig.  Maybe the pig is super cute.  And maybe the lipstick matches the bow her owner put on her and really makes her eyes pop.  

And again, for the record…. ENEB is accredited appropriately according to Spain.  Just because they aren’t accredited by HLC, or DEAC or something like that doesn’t make them non-accredited.  

Now, can we please move on from that?

Your statement is false that Isabel accredited Eneb. Fact, Eneb is a non-accredited institution. This is more like it from your friend: The [fill in the blank} school is “a private entity that awards degrees and diplomas which exist outside the official titles sanctioned by the Ministry of Education and Science (MOES) in Spain. Because the School operates outside the purview of the MOES, these degree titles are not officially sanctioned by the government of Spain, and are not officially recognized, though they are valued by private employers…ACEI finally confirmed, after corresponding with the issuing institution, that this is a título propio program, which most evaluators agree are designed for employment purposes, not higher education.” (Source: https://www.scholaro.com/newsletters/The...l-2016.pdf).

The Spanish degree system is not like the American or Canadian system. Being allowed to award Titulo Proprios is, in fact, a type of accreditation. Especially when that Titulo Proprio is granted in conjunction with a full university that is allowed to grant degrees. It's not completely unlike getting a Duke University or John Hopkins certificate through Coursera. Coursera, on its own, would mean absolutely nothing if it hadn't partnered with universities. Coursera is unaccredited and, if you get right down to it, nobody really cares who they are.

Your link got messed up, but I found the correct PDF. Even your own quote shows that they are "valued by employers", though. That, in itself, goes against your whole worthless and "lipstick on a pig" statement. Even AICE agrees that they have some value, whether or not they count as being equivalent to fully accredited US/Canadian degrees or not.

They're not going to be worth it for everyone, but as openair said: just about any degree can be considered to be worthless by someone. A degree is what you make of it. You can have a degree from Harvard and fail to get hired by anyone because you can't sell yourself and your degree. You can have a degree from a tiny little community college nobody ever heard of and go far because of your high ambitions. It's up to you and how you present yourself.