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Is it possible to get a bachelor's degree in anything with mostly Sophia, etc?
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(06-19-2023, 09:34 PM)dfrecore Wrote: TESU has the cornerstone and capstone only, for 6cr.  Excelsior has the cornerstone, capstone and info lit course for 7cr.

And yes, Excelsior advisors can be as bad as TESU ones; that does not make them a bad school, just the usual; it's not at all shocking.  I also did not claim that they were "super easy" to transfer into; they're about average.  I agree that you may have tons of RA credits that are useless there, depending on your prior credit and the degree you want to get.  Again, this is not shocking, this is par for the course.  You may have the same issues at ANY school you want to transfer to.  Also, most schools have a time limit on transferring courses in the major - TESU does as well.  Not a surprise.

As for people having 27cr of UL - I have seen MANY, many transcripts over the years where this is the case, and the person was still not anywhere close to a degree at their previous school for a variety of reasons.  Here are some I can come up with off the top of my head: 1) it's been long enough that the degree no longer exists at the school; 2) the person changed majors several times and still doesn't have enough UL credits in any one major to finish a degree in a decent amount of time; 3) it's still way too expensive to finish the degree in 2-4 semesters (or even 1 semester); 4) the school does not have online courses in the major and the student has either moved away or has other responsibilities and can't do an on-campus program; 5) the major requires an in-person component to the program like a field experience, clinical hours, an externship, and the student can no longer do this; 6) the student's GPA is low enough that the school won't re-admit them; 7) the student still needs 20+ UL credits to complete the major (many require closer to 45-60cr of UL in the major).  I have seen ALL of these more than once.

I have been doing degree planning for 13+ years, and have seen THOUSANDS of transcripts, and about a thousand evals from TESU, EU, COSC, UMPI, WGU, etc.  I know most of these schools well enough by now to look at a student's previous transcripts and tell them which school might be the best fit.  I also know that right now, TESU and UMPI are the most popular, but that ebbs and flows over the years.  When I first started on here, COSC was definitely the most popular, followed by Excelsior and then TESU. TESU overtook EU for a long time.  Then, EU was more popular when COSC and TESU added the RA requirement.  Now COSC is very unpopular.  But for a very long time, they were a significant portion of the degree seekers' option here (I'd say for at least 5 years).

This degree forum has been around for a long time, and unless you've been on for 10+ years, you don't know that you can't base everything on what you see on here now. I guarantee you, schools' policies change, and UMPI may go away just as quickly as it came on here; they may have a dean that comes in and decides that they will no longer accept ACE credit, or limit it to 30 or 60cr.  They may change the number of courses they take from any single provider (or Sophia may jack up their prices to what they used to be, and it's no longer as easy to get 90cr cheaply).  They may raise their YourPace tuition to something less affordable.  The people that work in the program may leave, and the person who takes their place may be awful to work with, and people just get frustrated and decide to stop using them because it's impossible to enroll.  They may take away degree programs.  They may add a capstone that takes an entire term. Or two.  They may make every course harder to complete, by adding extra papers or projects.  They may implement a policy that says you can't finish a course in less than 2 weeks.  I've seen all of these things happen over the years.

So, just because you haven't seen something doesn't make it untrue.  Maybe you just haven't been around long enough to see it.  But there are people on here who can attest to what it was like 5 or 10 or 15 years ago.  Anyone remember when there were no capstones or cornerstones at any of the Big 3 and you enrolled, sent in your credits, and graduated without taking a single course there?  Then remember when you could test out of TESU's Business degree by taking the Capstone TECEP exam.  And then when you could take the Capstone through Penn Foster and transfer it in?  Remember when you could take the GRE and get enough credits, both LL and UL for and entire major in Psychology or Biology?  Remember when the DSST had a ton of UL credit, and some CLEP exams were worth UL credit, and you could get all of your degree via test-out only through CLEP and DSST?  Remember when Excelsior and COSC awarded letter grades for CLEP and DSST exams?

Ah, the good ol' days...

Not sure why you're being so condescending. I hope your day gets better. I have stated over and over that schools change policies. UMPI has made a ton of changes since I first enrolled back in August 2020. Some good. Some bad. Change is part of life. I didn't say anything was untrue. I spoke about my experience at EU and how awful it was. I've attempted EU numerous times and each time it was complete crap. I'm going back 15 years with EU. I also don't say UMPI is the best choice for everyone. It's one option. I did say that TESU and UMPI seem to be the most popular currently.
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RE: Is it possible to get a bachelor's degree in anything with mostly Sophia, etc? - by ss20ts - 06-20-2023, 01:16 PM

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