ENEB Master Thread

[nykorn]

I went to the meeting, around 50 people attended. It is like a pixel art RPG version of a meeting room where you can click to move around and it has an ENEB building in it. In order to actually join the meeting you must click or double click on the audience seats in the image, your avatar guy will walk there, it will ask if you want to join, and then a powerpoint will appear on-screen. There are two totally separate chatboxes, one for meeting members and one for everyone even outside the meeting. So people outside the meeting are just asking over and over how to join the meeting.... because there are no instructions anywhere, you just have to figure it out.

Info from the chatbox in NUBI (the ENEB meeting room):

1) A person said "I study in Slovenia and they accepted my ENEB master's as first year of my master study. I obtained 60 ECTS and they only required a digital diploma. They said they would call the institution where I got the diploma from and check if it was legit." "Do they require you to go to a evaluation process that is specific for Slovenia like WES or IEE in US or Canada?" "No, they don't. They just accepted the ECTS."

2) "Is it recognized in UAE?" "Yes, I am from UAE. A lot of my friends got it attested in the UAE by MOFA."

3) A person in the US got their "MBA and Master in Business & Corp. Communication" equated by ECE to a "US Accredited Bachelor" and by Foreign Credential Services of America to a "Diploma non-accredited". The person sent both ENEB & Isabel documents, the evaluation decision was supposedly performed based on the Isabel documents. They received their diplomas near the end of 2023 but just got sent a new updated version of their diplomas including a new conferral date, due to the legal change in Spain at the end of 2023.

4) A person in New York says every employer they tried only cared that the diploma itself came from an accredited university, so all employers accepted their Isabel certificate at face value as being an accredited university diploma. However they said they did not try for any jobs that required licensure and did not try to get into university admissions with it.

5) It's unclear if someone from Bosnia/Germany received 60 ECTS or not, and if so if that was in Bosnia or Germany. They teach at IU Germany.

6) There seems to be a main WhatsApp group for ENEB, it is chat.whatsapp.com/DxIELwIsUjH2vrjtS1ObO2 - replace that last 2 with a p instead (I did that so robots don't spam their chat).

7) Here is some sort of PowerPoint in Spanish relating to the Class President stuff: https://uexternadoedu-my.sharepoint.com/...G0G6tJJ3Eg

According to the ENEB staff at the meeting:

ENEB is pronounced "eh nebb" not "ee en ee bee".

Class presidents will have internal meetings, presidents can be from any country, there will be two main groups (English and Spanish). Their task is to help people learn ways to study, show ENEB morals, and create a community feeling at ENEB. Presidents will not get any salary, but they can get class discounts (it sounds similar to having an ambassador code) and will build an international network of connections through these meetings and will see the internal workings of ENEB. "Companies really value it if you were a class president at school."

- March 31st - application window for class presidency ends.
- April 1st - 1st election board
- April 2nd - Notification of 1st group chosen.
- April 3rd - Personal interviews. Sounds like you will have to record videos.
- April 5th - Notification of final candidates.
- April 11 - First meeting of class presidents from all countries.

Diplomas: We know ENEB is running late on giving out the diplomas but to be honest we receive THOUSANDS of Emails every day. Every day we get Emails like "Can I change the name? Can I change the color of the diploma?" and we have to reply to all of these one by one. We have more than 5,000 current actively studying students.

Receipt of digital diplomas is supposed to take 60 days: 1) complete degree, 2) receive form asking for info, 3) get diploma. However the internal process looks like this: 1) student completes degree, 2) we verify completion with academic team, 3) you confirm your data (name, etc) - if this is incorrect or you want to change your name after you confirmed your data (like a nickname to your real name) then we have to reprocess everything individually. 4) we confirm payments have completed. 5) we generate the diplomas, 6) We request Isabel to generate their diplomas, 7) We receive the Isabel diploma after they do administrative work on their end about all this 8) we send you the diplomas.

We have actually changed all of the technology we have been using for these steps recently and that is part of why we have such a big delay. The other main part of the delay is receiving thousands of Emails asking for modifications or even angry customer Emails. The third part of the delay is people asking for their diplomas or confirmation Emails when they have not actually finished their programs - each time this happens we have to individually go in and check this person's account and confirm if they have finished or not.

"When will I receive my Isabel certificate?" - "We hope it will be within the next few weeks."

"When will I receive my hard copies?" - We can only start that process once the student has received ALL the ENEB digital diplomas from ALL your programs. If you are enrolled in 2 degrees but only finish 1, you will not get the hard copy for that 1 diploma until after you have finished your 2nd degree too. This usually takes 60 days after you get your digital diplomas - we have to take the diplomas to the notary and apostille places, and part of this delay is delay from these external agencies. We have hundreds ready to go out either tomorrow (Friday) or the beginning of next week. As soon as the hard copies get sent out we will Email you a tracking number.

"We don't like the new certificates, we like the old ones", "Can't you make the diploma background prettier?" - We are part of a partnership which dictates how we must do the certificates. This includes the wording, background and the color.

"I finished the program, why didn't I receive the Email asking to confirm my data?" - What we found is most students who have this problem did not actually finish their programs. Once all your grades have been uploaded into the campus, if you still didn't receive anything then you can Email us.

IEE partnership - Our partnership with another group (probably WES but it went unnamed) has ended. However we have a new partnership with the NACES committee IEE, which can also validate your degrees into both Canadian and American credits. They have agreed to validate ENEB credits and give ENEB students a 20% discount. If you did not already receive the Email with the link, once you have completed your academic program you can Email the academic department and they will Email you a special IEE link which has the discount. Before we did this partnership IEE would often take one to two months to evaluate ENEB degrees but now they agreed to make it 3 days, we hope this will help people who are applying in order to immigrate and are often in a rush because the immigration process already takes so long. The money goes directly to IEE, we at ENEB do not receive any money from this deal or from when you pay IEE. (No mention on what IEE would actually evaluate it as during this meeting - spree610 said later on in the English MasterClass they claim it will get evaluated as a Bachelor's.)

Our biggest communities outside of Spain are in Asia, Pakistan etc. Our goal is simply to help you move up in your life and have more opportunities. (They made it clear they're not to be viewed as the be-all end-all to education or your life.)

Screenshots from the event. One is ENEB's meeting physical meeting room, interesting to see the inside of their office.
https://ibb.co/Kmf2Zpy
https://ibb.co/9qmTZVV
https://ibb.co/483wdZ5

I had no problems understanding their English (I do not speak any Romance language, unless Esperanto counts). However I agree that if their English were better the meeting would probably have been more effective and they would not have felt the need to repeat themselves (psychologically, that is often a sign of feeling you were not understood or responded to).