What courses would you like to see on Sophia/SDC/etc?

[Duneranger]

But you know FULL well there are going to be a tons of people on here who fully believe these classes are just as good as the "real" version. That's where the delusion starts.

You've alluded to that several times, but I have yet to see anyone suggest that these courses are "the same" as what you consider to be "the real version." And what you're misunderstanding, is that no one cares. 

If you expected online courses for as low as $79/month to have the same length and depth as single university courses that cost thousands of dollars on their own and/or are taught by nursing schools or medical schools, then that was your mistake. 

Everyone accepts the courses for what they are. You're the only one having a hard time doing that.

They are scammy courses, which is why only a handful of schools with non-terrible reputations accept them en masse. I got it.

Again,  you speak for YOURSELF. But many people whose only college experience is Sophia and the half ass courses UMPI courses legitimately believe they are "just as good". This has been repeated many many times here, on Reddit, Discord etc etc. It doesn't dawn on them that earning 16 legitimate "college" credits in a week is a ludicrous concept.

So if you know and I know legit medically oriented schools won't accept them (except the dogshit WGU nursing program), why would Sophia bother to make them? There are already science options on the site that fulfill the gen ed check box.

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But you know FULL well there are going to be a tons of people on here who fully believe these classes are just as good as the "real" version. That's where the delusion starts.

You've alluded to that several times, but I have yet to see anyone suggest that these courses are "the same" as what you consider to be "the real version." And what you're misunderstanding, is that no one cares. 

If you expected online courses for as low as $79/month to have the same length and depth as single university courses that cost thousands of dollars on their own and/or are taught by nursing schools or medical schools, then that was your mistake. 

Everyone accepts the courses for what they are. You're the only one having a hard time doing that.

^^^^This. 100%. Thanks, eLearner.

As for everything Duneranger said to me, I'm not going to bother with it because he moved the goalposts AGAIN and if he can't see how he's doing it, then he can start a new thread asking for recommendations for a good logic, rhetoric, communications, or information literacy class that covers debate tactics and logical fallacies. In the meantime, I will never understand why more of his posts don't get deleted by the mods.

Again, always fluff and never substance. You throw in buzzwords as if they mean something. Unless someone can prove me wrong, I am the only one here with actual clinical experience in these subjects and have taught them at the college level.

I have already laid out clear reasoning why hyper-specialized medical classes on a scammy ACE credit feeders are a waste of time/money for Sophia and for students in the long run. I get the purpose of this forum is to do things in the easiest and quickest fashion but there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

Go read a textbook and knock your socks off...if it's TRULY about learning, of course...

Just because I don't circle jerk and pander to the lowest common denominator effort means my posts should get deleted? Oh okay lol.

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A utilitarian argument would be to offer new courses based on their popularity, since doing so would benefit the greatest number of students.

For example, in the case of Sophia Learning, the following could be considered:

Math Courses

• Discrete Math (highly popular)
  
• Linear Algebra (not as popular as Discrete Math)
  

Computer Science Courses

• Management of Information Systems
  
• Data Structures and Algorithms
  
• Computer Architecture
  

Psychology Courses

• Abnormal Psychology
  
• Research Methods
  
• Cognitive Psychology
  
• Social Psychology
  
• Positive Psychology (the most popular course in the history of Harvard University)
  

I'd agree with most of these. Research methods requires legitimate instruction, however.

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Well, we do get a bunch of people trying to use ACE credits for nursing and healthcare related graduate schools. I can also see where Duneranger is coming from especially with their documented issues with the surge of non-clinician healthcare admins. However, I don't think anyone is comparing Sophia offerings to med school when it isn't comparable to CC offerings. Hell, I'd even argue Straighterline is harder. But to Duneranger's point, Sophia previously pushed their "Nursing Pathway" trying to get prospective nursing student to take courses like A&P and Human biology. Look at this garbage: "By taking our diverse selection of science and health-related courses, you’ll lay the groundwork for success in upper-level nursing courses at your university." https://www.sophia.org/online-courses/co...g-pathway/  These courses are not sufficient as foundational knowledge for any healthcare provider.

If Sophia does open more healthcare related courses, I would love to see something related to hearing loss and the basics of reading an audiogram. Or maybe a Introduction to Healthcare careers as there are so many interesting roles outside of Doctor and Nurse.

This is reasonable as well. I think an intro to health profession course to get people interested would be worth Sophia's time. Teaching histology, pathology and radiology to people with barebones science backgrounds (if that)? No lol.