07-20-2026, 09:45 AM
(07-20-2026, 09:40 AM)SteveFoerster Wrote:(07-18-2026, 11:55 PM)Sagan Wrote: There was a time when Steve Levicoff pressed hard to make a distinction between a degree mill and a diploma mill. (Generally speaking, these two terms are used interchangeably.) His definitions (my words):
Degree Mill: A substandard school that awarded less-than-wonderful credentials while still requiring some modicum of academic achievement.
Diploma Mill: A business selling fake degrees (and diplomas) to anyone ready with a payment.
The lines between these two concepts have been frequently blurred. And he was pretty inclusive regarding what could be a degree mill, including some accredited schools.
Still I think the terms are useful here. To wit: This thing--that has consumed 17 pages of inane rationalization and excuse-making--isn't a "diploma mill."
I've always thought that this was needlessly confusing considering that "substandard" will do just as well for the first category.
Not to mention very subjective.


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