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(12-17-2017, 12:50 AM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(12-17-2017, 12:26 AM)sanantone Wrote:
(12-16-2017, 10:27 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(12-16-2017, 10:16 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(12-16-2017, 08:53 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: 100% agree! Wink  A great value for both!


How is Coastline Community College?  It sounds like a great college for Veterans?

It's not a great value when people take tests without studying because they know someone else is paying for it.

Anyone who can accumulate 150 credits in 6 months is a great deal for only $6000.  Failing 18 exams is no big deal and just the cost of doing business.  Heck, the VA pays way over $6000 for tons of folks for just one term at regular B&M Universities for just 15 credits.  In a cost-to-benefit ratio, this is a deal for the DOD.  In a cost-to-benefit ratio (time and cost), this is a deal for anyone even paying out of pocket.  Look at the big picture!

$1800+ wasted on one person because he didn't want to study is no big deal?

They stopped paying for unlimited exams for a reason, and I'm glad they did.

I am not into efficiency (LEAN Six Sigma) I am into effectiveness (graduating).  DOD/VA paid 5% on the USD for my credits/degrees.  I could have done the local private night school university (with adult programs) for $28,500 tuition and the VA would pay me housing $1481/month in addition.  Many of my fellow Vets are doing this right now.  The college scoreboard says they have a 59% graduation rate.  This is just one example.  I am not into milking the VA. Throwing $$$$ money at these B&M colleges is the real enemy to taxpayers.   Failing 18 exams is NOT part of the educational-government complex.  Feds throwing $$$$ at B&M universities is.

It would only be throwing away money if veterans intentionally did not study in their courses. It's about principle. You don't waste other people's money. I have no problem with paying for education. I do not want to pay for someone who will intentionally waste my money.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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#22
[quote pid='247937' dateline='1513475583']

(12-16-2017, 08:05 PM)22gunsonfire Wrote: So no you don't get automatically promoted by the number of credits you obtain (but it doesn't hurt when you're up for your promotion review).

I just wanted to say there are still plenty of us in the DoD studying for exams. Sadly, my test center is sponsored by Coastline Community College and is withdrawing due to a lack of turn out. Before my friend and I created a testing initiative for the command our test center saw 1 or 2 exams a month. Now, 8 months later, he's looking at 2-5 a week. Still the test center is scheduled for shutdown. Sad day. Sad

How is Coastline Community College?  It sounds like a great college for Veterans?
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Coastline hasn't had a college office presence here on my installation for a while. Right now we have Vincent's. Neither school is as accepting of transfer credits as Tesu, EC, or Charter Oaks. The one guy they still pay to administer the test center though is pretty awesome. I showed him what we do here on the forum and he agrees that the best bang for the buck isn't always going a B&M. He has been giving out all the condensed resources I made (from forum info) for my work center to anybody who shows up to the test center.

I'm going through EC and I can say I haven't had a poor experience with them.
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#23
(12-17-2017, 10:50 AM)22gunsonfire Wrote: [quote pid='247937' dateline='1513475583']

(12-16-2017, 08:05 PM)22gunsonfire Wrote: So no you don't get automatically promoted by the number of credits you obtain (but it doesn't hurt when you're up for your promotion review).

I just wanted to say there are still plenty of us in the DoD studying for exams. Sadly, my test center is sponsored by Coastline Community College and is withdrawing due to a lack of turn out. Before my friend and I created a testing initiative for the command our test center saw 1 or 2 exams a month. Now, 8 months later, he's looking at 2-5 a week. Still the test center is scheduled for shutdown. Sad day. Sad

How is Coastline Community College?  It sounds like a great college for Veterans?

Coastline hasn't had a college office presence here on my installation for a while. Right now we have Vincent's. Neither school is as accepting of transfer credits as Tesu, EC, or Charter Oaks. The one guy they still pay to administer the test center though is pretty awesome. I showed him what we do here on the forum and he agrees that the best bang for the buck isn't always going a B&M. He has been giving out all the condensed resources I made (from forum info) for my work center to anybody who shows up to the test center.

I'm going through EC and I can say I haven't had a poor experience with them.
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Excelsior College was seamless using the Post 9/11 GI Bill for me.   

Vincennes University only required 6 SH for an AS degree.

Coastline CC has tons of AA degrees with real concentrations.  Coastline CC exam fact sheets say they accept almost all CLEP, DSST, and ECE exams.  All three are posted online.   I am having Coastline review my exams now and some transfer B&M credits to see how easy or hard they are.  Coastline might be a long-term thing for me.  To get a degree from them you only need 12 SH from Coastline and you can apply for as many AA degrees as your credits fit into.  For me, that might be quite a few. Big Grin   I will know more in the future!

I love FTCC for Veterans in North Carolina.  FTCC does refuse to accept college credits using the quarter system unless its 5 QH which is not common. Angry  They did accept all my ECE, CLEP, DSST exams.  They love many industry tests and schools also.   FTCC is in bed with Excelsior College with agreements.   FTCC has over 200+ degrees and certificates.   FTCC just joined the Yellow Ribbon program.  That being said I signed up for three more classes next term.  FTCC limits me to 13 SH per year using the Yellow Ribbon Program.  My first course this Fall II term and I now have a Certificate from them (3 SH needed to be from FTCC).  I will finish my last 3 courses next fall for 4 more credentials. Big Grin
Non-Traditional Undergraduate College Credits (634 SH): *FTCC Noncourse Credits (156 SH) *DSST (78 SH) *CPL (64 SH) *JST Military/ACE (48 SH) *CBA (44 SH) *CLEP (42 SH) *FEMA IS (40 SH) *FEMA EM (38 SH) *ECE/UExcel (30 SH) *PLA Portfolio (28 SH) *EMI/ACE (19 SH) *TEEX/ACE (16 SH) *CWE (11 SH) *NFA/ACE (10 SH) *Kaplan/ACE (3 SH) *CPC (2 SH) *AICP/ACE (2 SH) *Sophia/ACE (2 SH) and *FRTI-UM/ACE (1 SH).
Non-Traditional Graduate College Credits (14 SH): AMU (6 SH); NFHS (5 SH); and JSU (3 SH).
 





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#24
I could be wrong, but it looks as though you only took the total numbers from the first quarter (For period 10/1/2016 - 12/31/2016).  

Here's what I came up with:

Name of Exam     Military     Commercial     Total
Spanish Language     84%     91%     90%
College Composition Modular     82%     83%     82%
College Composition     75%     81%     80%
French Language     67%     78%     78%
Principles of Marketing     55%     79%     74%
Introductory Sociology     61%     80%     74%
College Mathematics     66%     76%     71%
Info Systems and Computer Appl     71%     71%     71%
German Language     57%     72%     71%
Human Growth and Development     30%     75%     68%
Analyzing and Interpreting Lit     59%     75%     66%
Principles of Macroeconomics     33%     72%     63%
History of United States I     39%     69%     62%
Principles of Microeconomics     26%     72%     62%
Western Civilization I     38%     68%     61%
Precalculus     35%     63%     60%
Biology     36%     60%     57%
Introductory Psychology     34%     70%     56%
Intro to Educational Psych     19%     60%     55%
Natural Sciences     49%     57%     54%
Humanities     36%     68%     54%
History of United States II     36%     56%     52%
Calculus     21%     53%     52%
English Literature     25%     60%     51%
Social Sciences and History     39%     62%     50%
Financial Accounting     13%     55%     47%
Western Civilization II     39%     48%     47%
College Algebra     24%     52%     46%
Introductory Business Law     24%     51%     46%
Principles of Management     33%     67%     46%
American Government     24%     52%     45%
American Literature     12%     51%     42%
Chemistry     13%     39%     37%
TESU BSBA in General Management
CCAF AAS in Computer Science Technology

Resources used:  CLEP, DSST,
Penn Foster, Sophia, StraighterLine, TEEX, NFA, ALEKS, The Institutes
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#25
[quote="jmeitrem" pid='248342' dateline='1513945656']
I could be wrong, but it looks as though you only took the total numbers from the first quarter (For period 10/1/2016 - 12/31/2016).  

No. At the bottom of the Excel sheet you'll see quartile tabs. Go to the last tab on the right which is the whole year. Each category of test taker is included as well as totals. That's where I pulled from.
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#26
(12-22-2017, 07:27 AM)jmeitrem Wrote: I could be wrong, but it looks as though you only took the total numbers from the first quarter (For period 10/1/2016 - 12/31/2016).  

No. At the bottom of the Excel sheet you'll see quartile tabs. Go to the last tab on the right which is the whole year. Each category of test taker is included as well as totals. That's where I pulled from.
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