2nd Bachelors Degree from TESC

[defscarlett]

There's a lot of talk about getting 2nd degrees on here, and I've kicked around the idea myself. I'm getting a BA in Criminal Justice and have considered getting a 2nd Bachelors in History or a BSBA CIS. I know that you have to have 24 new credits with the majority of them being UL, but what courses are you required to take? Can you pretty much pick and choose generic History or Computer courses to get the 2nd degree?

[sanantone]

You need to have 24 new credits in the major area of study. That's it. They don't have to be specific courses; they just have to fit into the major area of study. There is no specification for how many new credits have to be UL, but some of them will have to be UL for you to meet the degree's requirements. Like every other BA, 18 UL credits will be needed for history and computer science. Technically, you could get away with only having 9 new credits as UL if you already have 6 UL credits in history (or computer science) plus the capstone you will have to take later on. The question is, "Do you have to retake the liberal arts capstone?"

For the BSBA programs, the core has a bunch of courses that are automatically UL unless you take them at a CC. The area of specialization, CIS in your case, has to have 12 UL credits. I think for the BSBA, the area of study includes the business core, specialization, and business electives. There is not even enough room in the specialization for 24 new credits, so it has to include the business electives and business core.

[defscarlett]

You need to have 24 new credits in the major area of study. That's it. They don't have to be specific courses; they just have to fit into the major area of study. There is no specification for how many new credits have to be UL, but some of them will have to be UL for you to meet the degree's requirements. Like every other BA, 18 UL credits will be needed for history and computer science. Technically, you could get away with only having 9 new credits as UL if you already have 6 UL credits in history (or computer science) plus the capstone you will have to take later on. The question is, "Do you have to retake the liberal arts capstone?"

For the BSBA programs, the core has a bunch of courses that are automatically UL unless you take them at a CC. The area of specialization, CIS in your case, has to have 12 UL credits. I think for the BSBA, the area of study includes the business core, specialization, and business electives. There is not even enough room in the specialization for 24 new credits, so it has to include the business electives and business core.

So if I hear what you're saying correctly I will need 12 CH in CIS and 12 CH in Business? Would I be able to use the TEEX courses as part of those 12 CH for CIS? Also with my main degree being a BA, and then getting a secondary as a BS do I need to be cognizant about the difference in Gen Eds?

[sanantone]

So if I hear what you're saying correctly I will need 12 CH in CIS and 12 CH in Business? Would I be able to use the TEEX courses as part of those 12 CH for CIS? Also with my main degree being a BA, and then getting a secondary as a BS do I need to be cognizant about the difference in Gen Eds?

You just need 24 new credits in the major. It does not matter if they fall in the business core, CIS specialization, or business electives. Yes, you can use TEEX courses for the CIS area of study. The specialization or area of study is 18 credits. 12 of those credits need to be UL. The IT Professional TEEX courses lead to 2 UL credits at TESC. The "Everyone" courses lead to two 200-level credits. "Business Professionals" is counted as a generic, 200-level, management course that can only be used as a business or free elective. Check out my test out plan for the BSBA in General Management to see the gen ed requirements that are specific to business degrees.
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[defscarlett]

Thanks for your assistance sanantone.

Last questions.

What I was asking above is if the Gen Ed requirements are different, i.e. the BSBA is requiring Statistics in my Gen Eds, but it is not required in my BA, would I now be required to meet those same Gen Ed requirements for my 2nd degree. Meaning will I have to take Statistics to get the 2nd degree.

I have a few Computer courses that I took about 10 years ago at a CC, they've already been transcribed, one as UL, two as LL and are sitting unused in my sadly large bank of overage credits. Since I have taken these prior to getting my first degree conferred am I allowed to use them? Especially since I'm not even using them for my primary degree. Also if I now add a second degree will I lose the UL credit that my course has already been transcribed as since that is now a rule with TESC?

[sanantone]

Yes, you have to meet the BSBA's additional gen ed requirements. Yes, you can use those courses toward the 2nd degree, but they won't be counted as new since they were earned before the first degree was conferred. I don't know if they will downgrade your CC course.

[zenurez]

So I was playing with the idea of getting a second BA at TESC in Social Studies or Psychology . . .because in theory I'd only need 8 more classes to meet the degree requirements and 8 classes meets the requirements for 24 new credits in the concentration for a second degree.

So my question revolves around what the associated TESC expenses will be. When I do an "enrolled options" plan for $3K its good for 12 months. If I wait to "enroll" until I have all the credits required to graduate with my BSBA, can I use my remaining 11 months to also graduate with a BA in Psychology? Or will they ask me to pay another $3K? Obviously I'd have to pay another graduation fee.

And on another tangent, if I choose to get both an Associates in Business Administration and a BSBA when I graduate, will they charge me one graduation fee or two?

[AlbaTiVo]

You can use the balance of your enrollment fee for the second degree and if you apply for an associates and a bachelors during the same graduation cycle you only pay one graduation fee. I really don't see the point in getting an ASBA and BSBA at the same time - can you grab another associates instead to round out your resume?

[zenurez]

You can use the balance of your enrollment fee for the second degree and if you apply for an associates and a bachelors during the same graduation cycle you only pay one graduation fee. I really don't see the point in getting an ASBA and BSBA at the same time - can you grab another associates instead to round out your resume?

Oh, thats a great idea . . .I do have a lot of social studies credits . . . I'll have to check into this! Thanks!

[zenurez]

With TESC do I have to worry about overlapping use of classes for the AS in another subject (perhaps social sciences) and BSBA if I get both degrees at the same time when I graduate? I know from one Bachelors to another you have to have 24 new credits, but I didn't remember seeing anything on TESC website about overlaps being a problem.