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The 100 Million Learners Global initiative is a fabulous opportunity for free graduate learning but I hate how ASU has eviscerated Thunderbird over the last dozen years. It declined from the preeminent program in international business to a generic program no one cares about. A tragic loss.
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(02-08-2025, 12:10 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: For my own curiosity, since I'm a lover of certificate aesthetics, what does the noncredit certificate look like? I couldn't find it on LinkedIn or Google.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stephen-w...a5kR5x5KJo
Looks like this except it says:
Global Management, Entrepreneurship and Innovation Advanced Program
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(02-26-2025, 04:36 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: (02-08-2025, 12:10 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: For my own curiosity, since I'm a lover of certificate aesthetics, what does the noncredit certificate look like? I couldn't find it on LinkedIn or Google.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stephen-w...a5kR5x5KJo
Looks like this except it says:
Global Management, Entrepreneurship and Innovation Advanced Program
Thanks. That's a bit of a disappointment. It's a free certificate that looks like a free certificate, so maybe the disappointment is well-deserved for me hoping for something better. Also, for caring about what a certificate looks like when the real point is to experience the program. But, eh, it's just a thing I like.
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(02-26-2025, 04:49 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: (02-26-2025, 04:36 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: (02-08-2025, 12:10 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: For my own curiosity, since I'm a lover of certificate aesthetics, what does the noncredit certificate look like? I couldn't find it on LinkedIn or Google.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stephen-w...a5kR5x5KJo
Looks like this except it says:
Global Management, Entrepreneurship and Innovation Advanced Program
Thanks. That's a bit of a disappointment. It's a free certificate that looks like a free certificate, so maybe the disappointment is well-deserved for me hoping for something better. Also, for caring about what a certificate looks like when the real point is to experience the program. But, eh, it's just a thing I like.
No, I get it and I agree.
The knowledge and practice, is well earned and applicable in the workforce. It’s 1:1 of their paid content.
However an employer, would see it as how you just described, a free ‘worthless certificate’. Unless we are already employed, and using this to enhance our skill sets.
The free-free aspect of it, it’s not worth our time in my opinion, because an employer wouldn’t be impressed if we showed them the free certificate.
How we list it on our resume can be complicated, if we don’t pay we should list it as the 100 Million Learners Program not ASU/Thunderbird.
Which is odd, paywall to success?
I took Harvard’s free CS50 course which is well known in tech and this exact same concept. I didn’t go to Harvard but took their free courses?
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(02-26-2025, 07:29 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: (02-26-2025, 04:49 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: (02-26-2025, 04:36 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: (02-08-2025, 12:10 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: For my own curiosity, since I'm a lover of certificate aesthetics, what does the noncredit certificate look like? I couldn't find it on LinkedIn or Google.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stephen-w...a5kR5x5KJo
Looks like this except it says:
Global Management, Entrepreneurship and Innovation Advanced Program
Thanks. That's a bit of a disappointment. It's a free certificate that looks like a free certificate, so maybe the disappointment is well-deserved for me hoping for something better. Also, for caring about what a certificate looks like when the real point is to experience the program. But, eh, it's just a thing I like.
No, I get it and I agree.
The knowledge and practice, is well earned and applicable in the workforce. It’s 1:1 of their paid content.
However an employer, would see it as how you just described, a free ‘worthless certificate’. Unless we are already employed, and using this to enhance our skill sets.
The free-free aspect of it, it’s not worth our time in my opinion, because an employer wouldn’t be impressed if we showed them the free certificate.
How we list it on our resume can be complicated, if we don’t pay we should list it as the 100 Million Learners Program not ASU/Thunderbird.
Which is odd, paywall to success?
I took Harvard’s free CS50 course which is well known in tech and this exact same concept. I didn’t go to Harvard but took their free courses?
Why would you not list it as from ASU?
Doesn't it say ASU on the certificate?
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(03-04-2025, 12:52 AM)midnite123 Wrote: (02-26-2025, 07:29 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: (02-26-2025, 04:49 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: (02-26-2025, 04:36 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: (02-08-2025, 12:10 PM)Maniac Craniac Wrote: For my own curiosity, since I'm a lover of certificate aesthetics, what does the noncredit certificate look like? I couldn't find it on LinkedIn or Google.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stephen-w...a5kR5x5KJo
Looks like this except it says:
Global Management, Entrepreneurship and Innovation Advanced Program
Thanks. That's a bit of a disappointment. It's a free certificate that looks like a free certificate, so maybe the disappointment is well-deserved for me hoping for something better. Also, for caring about what a certificate looks like when the real point is to experience the program. But, eh, it's just a thing I like.
No, I get it and I agree.
The knowledge and practice, is well earned and applicable in the workforce. It’s 1:1 of their paid content.
However an employer, would see it as how you just described, a free ‘worthless certificate’. Unless we are already employed, and using this to enhance our skill sets.
The free-free aspect of it, it’s not worth our time in my opinion, because an employer wouldn’t be impressed if we showed them the free certificate.
How we list it on our resume can be complicated, if we don’t pay we should list it as the 100 Million Learners Program not ASU/Thunderbird.
Which is odd, paywall to success?
I took Harvard’s free CS50 course which is well known in tech and this exact same concept. I didn’t go to Harvard but took their free courses?
Why would you not list it as from ASU?
Doesn't it say ASU on the certificate? It says Thunderbird and ASU in small logos, and a big o’ 100 Million Learners logo. Depending how we present it, it may come off as misleading and fraudulent.
1. We took the courses yes
2. Unpaid, no we don’t have a grad level certificate, just an arbitrary certificate.
If we split our education and certificates separately, I would list it as a certificate under LinkedIn and our resume, but if we pay I would list it under education.
Just my two cents
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In case anyone missed it the College Credit payment portal is live, for $500/course.
Don't go all the way into Canvas, just login at 100millionlerners.org and at the top it now says:
"Courses
Badges & Certificates
College Credit"
Under College Credit we can pay via PayPal. So for a grand total of $3000, I still find it amusing it costs more to enter the letter grade onto the transcript opposed to getting it graded.
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(03-09-2025, 11:21 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: In case anyone missed it the College Credit payment portal is live, for $500/course.
Don't go all the way into Canvas, just login at 100millionlerners.org and at the top it now says:
"Courses
Badges & Certificates
College Credit"
Under College Credit we can pay via PayPal. So for a grand total of $3000, I still find it amusing it costs more to enter the letter grade onto the transcript opposed to getting it graded.
So, at the end of the day, it costs $3500 for what had initially been positioned as 15 "free" credits designed to "democratize access to world-class management education".
What an epic scam.
"This initiative, spearheaded by Thunderbird School of Global Management at Arizona State University, is designed to provide transformative learning opportunities to learners worldwide, particularly focusing on underrepresented and underserved communities.
This visionary program was launched in January 2022 and offers online, global education from Thunderbird/ASU (world-class, accredited institutions) in 40 different languages to learners across the globe, at absolutely no cost to the learner."
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(03-09-2025, 11:52 PM)slammX Wrote: (03-09-2025, 11:21 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: In case anyone missed it the College Credit payment portal is live, for $500/course.
Don't go all the way into Canvas, just login at 100millionlerners.org and at the top it now says:
"Courses
Badges & Certificates
College Credit"
Under College Credit we can pay via PayPal. So for a grand total of $3000, I still find it amusing it costs more to enter the letter grade onto the transcript opposed to getting it graded.
So, at the end of the day, it costs $3500 for what had initially been positioned as 15 "free" credits designed to "democratize access to world-class management education".
What an epic scam.
"This initiative, spearheaded by Thunderbird School of Global Management at Arizona State University, is designed to provide transformative learning opportunities to learners worldwide, particularly focusing on underrepresented and underserved communities.
This visionary program was launched in January 2022 and offers online, global education from Thunderbird/ASU (world-class, accredited institutions) in 40 different languages to learners across the globe, at absolutely no cost to the learner."
$500 total to get graded + $2500 total for transcription = $3000 + $70 application fee.
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(03-09-2025, 11:52 PM)slammX Wrote: (03-09-2025, 11:21 PM)3ichael7ambert Wrote: In case anyone missed it the College Credit payment portal is live, for $500/course.
Don't go all the way into Canvas, just login at 100millionlerners.org and at the top it now says:
"Courses
Badges & Certificates
College Credit"
Under College Credit we can pay via PayPal. So for a grand total of $3000, I still find it amusing it costs more to enter the letter grade onto the transcript opposed to getting it graded.
So, at the end of the day, it costs $3500 for what had initially been positioned as 15 "free" credits designed to "democratize access to world-class management education".
What an epic scam.
"This initiative, spearheaded by Thunderbird School of Global Management at Arizona State University, is designed to provide transformative learning opportunities to learners worldwide, particularly focusing on underrepresented and underserved communities.
This visionary program was launched in January 2022 and offers online, global education from Thunderbird/ASU (world-class, accredited institutions) in 40 different languages to learners across the globe, at absolutely no cost to the learner."
Yes and no. It is still free to learn and get a non-credit certificate. The cost comes in when you want to convert it to college credit. The downside is that they never gave the actual cost early on. They just called it a “nominal fee”
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