Confused Boomer, Help Needed Please

[bjcheung77]

That's where the trifecta comes in, you work on certs, degree, experience and get a good mix/match of the three to your liking. Example is to do the Coursera Plus, IBM, and TADA offerings that provide ACE credit towards your degree. Here's an example BACS/BSBA CIS from Rachel83AZ that uses foreign credit in place of what LevelUP's plan has, similar thing: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...z_version)

Just because their plans don't have the prerequisites that you're looking for doesn't dismiss you from future learning options, you create the plan to your liking, these are just used as references for requirements. Again, you can do the BACS/BSBA CIS along with the Coursera/IBM certificates to mix/match your trifecta to your liking, it really depends on the learner, not the degree plan, it's your overall learning and application package you show future institutions.

[PolloPolo]

That's where the trifecta comes in, you work on certs, degree, experience and get a good mix/match of the three to your liking. Example is to do the Coursera Plus, IBM, and TADA offerings that provide ACE credit towards your degree.  Here's an example BACS/BSBA CIS from Rachel83AZ that uses foreign credit in place of what LevelUP's plan has, similar thing: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...z_version)

Just because their plans don't have the prerequisites that you're looking for doesn't dismiss you from future learning options, you create the plan to your liking, these are just used as references for requirements.  Again, you can do the BACS/BSBA CIS along with the Coursera/IBM certificates to mix/match your trifecta to your liking, it really depends on the learner, not the degree plan, it's your overall learning and application package you show future institutions.

Yep I understand all that, thanks. 

After really looking at the UC Boulder MS-DS/MS-CS degrees and sleeping on it I don't think that's the best idea.  I don't have a background in comp sci, experience in programming/software development, or knowledge in linear algebra/discrete math/etc. I could learn all that before starting the program but then I may as well go through the BACS/BSBA CIS route and have a double bachelors. The UC Boulder MS-CS program looks great though, I could earn a DS certificate without taking additional classes due to the overlap between CS and DS. Anyway, putting the cart before the horse. I need to concentrate on the TESU degrees first lol. Also, I'm still kind of hoping I can get into GT's OMSA/OMSCS program lol. 

I tried to line up my transfer credits to see all the courses they satisfy for the BACS and the BSBA CIS degrees. I really thought they would eliminate more of the Gen Ed requirements honestly, I'm kind of bummed about that. Hopefully someone could look over this and let me know if I screwed up somehow:

BACS
A. Intellectual and Practical Skills (15 Credits) Transfer

ENC-1010 Writing for Success 3 Davidson ENG111
ENC-1020 English Composition II 3 Davidson ENG113
COM-2090 Public Speaking 3
MAT-1210 College Algebra 3 Harford MATH216
SOS-1100 Fact, Fiction, or Fake? Information Literacy Today 3
For all TESU course options that will satisfy this area of the degree, go to Intellectual and Practical Skills.

B. Civic and Global Leadership (9 Credits)
SOC-1010 Our Changing World: An Introduction to Sociology 3
ETH-2200 Leading the Way: A Path Towards Ethical Leadership 3
POS-1100 American Government 3 Davidson POL120

C. Knowledge of Human Cultures (15 Credits)
SOC-2100 Marriage and the Family 3 UNC ECON2101
HIS-1130 American History I 3 Davidson HIS131
FIL-1100 Exploring American Cinema 3 Sophia Ancient Greek?
Select two featured courses from the list below:
SOC-2910 Criminology 3
HIS-1140 American History II 3 Davidson HIS132
HIS-1210 Introduction to World History I 3 App State HIS1101
HUM-1030 Introduction to the Humanities III: Music 3
PHI-1300 Introduction to Critical Reasoning 3

D. Scientific Knowledge (6 Credits)
EAS-1010 General Earth Science 3
BIO-2080 The Science of Nutrition 3

II. Area of Study (45 Credits)
A. Required Courses (18 Credits)
COS-1110 Introduction to Programming 3 Stats.com Python for Analytics/Intro to R Programming?
COS-2410 Data Structures 3
MAT-2310 Calculus I 4
MAT-2700 Discrete Mathematics 3
COS-2400 Operating Systems 3
COS-3300 Computer Architecture 3

B. Computer Science Electives (18 Credits)
     For computer science electives, please contact an academic advisor.

C. Natural Sciences, Math, and Computer Science Electives (6 Credits)
- Natural Sciences Math and Computer Science Electives 6
Complete 6 credits in the Natural Sciences, Math, and Computer Science areas.

D. Capstone (3 Credits)
LIB-4950 Liberal Arts Capstone 3

III. Electives (30 Credits)

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This is what I have for the BSBA CIS requirements: 

II. Professional Business Requirements (42 Credits)

ACC-1010 Principles of Financial Accounting 3 UNC ACCT2121
ACC-1020 Principles of Managerial Accounting 3 Towson ACCT202
CIS-1070 Computer Concepts and Applications 3
LAW-2010 Business Law 3 Towson LEGL225
MAN-2100 Principles of Management 3 Army 
MKT-2010 Introduction to Marketing 3
FIN-3010 Principles of Finance 3
ECO-1110 Macroeconomics 3 UNC ECON2101
ECO-1120 Microeconomics 3 Davidson ECO251
BUS-2100 Quantitative Skills for Business 3
STA-2010 Principles of Statistics 3 Harford MATH216
MAN-3730 Managerial Communications 3
MAN-3720 International Management 3
BUS-4210 Business Administration Capstone 3

III. Area of Study (18 Credits)
A. Required Courses (6 Credits)
COS-1160 C Programming 3
CIS-3200 System Analysis and Design I 3

B. Additional Courses (12 Credits)
COS-2410 Data Structures 3
COS-2400 Operating Systems 3
CIS-3110 Database Management 3
CIS-3010 Management Information Systems 3

IV. Electives (15 Credits)

[fmsoa]

If you insist on TESU route, at least major in BS Data Science and Analytics. The materials from statistics.com are a lot more relevant than any TESU BA/BSBA degree as almost all of them are outdated stuff

[allvia]

I'm going to suggest you get whichever TESU bachelor you can complete quickest (BACS or BSBA - in any AOS) and then move onto a master program like the one at Eastern (which was designed for not STEM bachelor majors) - MS Data Science https://www.eastern.edu/academics/gradua...ta-science

[PolloPolo]

I'm going to suggest you get whichever TESU bachelor you can complete quickest (BACS or BSBA - in any AOS) and then move onto a master program like the one at Eastern (which was designed for not STEM bachelor majors) - MS Data Science https://www.eastern.edu/academics/gradua...ata-scienc

I just emailed TESU to have my transfer credits evaluated for the BACS degree. I'm hoping they will show more required courses complete than what I came up with. 
Never heard of Eastern, I'll have to compare it to UC Boulder and GT. Less than $10k for Eastern's not bad!

[PolloPolo]

TESU just completed my transfer credit evaluation. They applied 82 credits towards the BACS degree so I need 38 more. I used LevelUP's BACS/BSBA CIS Wiki plan to plan out the remaining credits but need a bit more help. This is the remaining courses I need for the BACS degree: 

I
A. Intellectual and Practical Skills      Transfer Credits              TESU Credits
COM-2090   Public Speaking                    3    SDC 12 Pres Skills
SOS-1100    Fact, Fiction, or Fake?                                                  3 

B. Civic and Global Leadership
ETH-2200    Leading the Way                  3    Sophia Int to Ethics

II
AOS
A. Required Courses
COS-2410    Data Structures                   3    SDC CS 201
MAT-2310    Calculus I                           3    Sophia or SL
MAT-2700    Discrete Math                     3    SDC MAT 103
COS-2400    Operating Sys                     3    SDC CS 105
COS-3300    Comp Arch                         3    SDC 306

B. Computer Sci Electives (TESU's selfservice My Progress page says: "Complete all of the following items.  1 of 2 Completed.  Complete 11 credits. Choose from the department of Computer Science Elective. Choose from the levels of 300, 400.  0 of 11 Credits Completed. Complete 11sh from overage.") I'm confused about needing 11 sh instead of 18. 
COS-302      Software Eng                                                              3    
       ?                     ?                                                                         3
       ?                     ?                                                                         3
     ?               ?                         2-3


D. Capstone
LIB-4950      Liberal Arts Capstone                                                3                                                                           
   
Total                                          23-24                      15 

Okay I think I figured out why I need 11 credits for the Comp Sci electives vs 18. Some of my college/military transfer credits were less than 3 sh equivalent. They gave me partial credit for Oral Comm, Eth Ldrshp, etc. Damn that took me a long time to figure out lol. 

Anyone have ideas about what I could take for more Comp Sci electives? 
I'll take the flat rate term for $4,299 and do the 15 TESU credits. I was thinking about using some of my post 9/11 GI Bill but they will charge me the per credit hour rate of $545 which would come out to $8,175! I'll save the GI Bill for the CU Boulder's MSCS.

[rachel83az]

CS electives here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

If you need more UL credit and don't like the SDC offerings, there's also https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera The IBM Full Stack Software Developer Professional Certificate should give you CLD-4200, which ought to be an AOS elective. If you can finish in 1-2 months (totally doable), $50-$100 is a dang good price for 18 UL & LL credits.

[PolloPolo]

CS electives here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

If you need more UL credit and don't like the SDC offerings, there's also https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera The IBM Full Stack Software Developer Professional Certificate should give you CLD-4200, which ought to be an AOS elective. If you can finish in 1-2 months (totally doable), $50-$100 is a dang good price for 18 UL & LL credits.

Yeah 18 credits sounds amazing! Just looked up the IBM Full Stack course in Coursera. There's a lot of stuff that would be extremely beneficial to learn: Django, SQL, GitHub, JavaScript, etc. So if I do that cert it should satisfy the remaining AOS CS electives (only need 2-3 hours). I guess the 18 credits will be a bit overkill for the electives but I'll have to learn what's in the course eventually anyway. Or, if TESU accepts the 18 ACE credits towards the AOS electives I could take the remaining 9 credits with TESU (Data Structures, Op Sys, Comp Arch) along with SOS-1100 Info Lit and LIB-4950 Lib Capstone to satisfy the 15 credit non-resident requirement. Hmmm.

I don't know how you all figured all this out! All these choices make my head spin.

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Scratch off Data Structures from TESU. Just read I'll need to know C++ before I begin the course.

[bjcheung77]

Take the trifecta of certs, degree, experience with as many Coursera/ACE options you can take, it's well worth the energy, money, time you put into it as you gain certs/experience and college credit with them, I would max those out first. For your flat rate term, I suggest Cornerstone, Capstone, Software Engineering, PLA 1010 and an E-Pack of your choice. Your main focus would be placing 40% of your resources/time into the capstone, the rest can take 15% each... and if you really need to, you can extend the Capstone course if you feel you may want extra time to complete everything.

[rachel83az]

I agree with bjcheung77. The courses you listed to take at TESU are some of the hardest ones. Take the easy ones instead. The TESU classes for the flat-rate term don't even have to be directly related to your degree. It's usually easiest if they are, but really take whatever looks like an easy A (or B).