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Degree planning TESU
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(02-12-2022, 01:36 PM)sarahmac Wrote:
(02-12-2022, 08:06 AM)amlagood Wrote: Im curious is it possible to do the capstone and cornerstone without having all 113 credits. Basically I have an opportunity to do a paid masters (sponsored by work) starting sep 2022 but I need to have a complete undergraduate degree before 20th of August. I know there's a semester starting early March at excelsior. Is it possible to transfer in about 90 credits, do the capstone and cornerstone by May and then do the left over credit in June and July. Also is there a deadline for when all the work should be completed by in order to be eligible for the summer graduation.

Noone else has mentioned it so I will: what A Levels did you take? A levels are accepted for college credit in the US because they are equivalent to the first year or so (why their degrees are four years and ours aren't). If you took A Level Maths and Further Maths, for example, you would at least get a couple math credits based on that. The content of A Level Maths is roughly equivalent to Calc 1, 2 possibly 3 and Stats or Discrete Math depending on what options you took. So even if you weren't awarded credit for all, testing out via Study.com, Straighterline etc would likely be a walk in the park if you remembered everything.

I did A Level Maths with Stat 1 and Decision 1, for example, and that easily covered a US Intro Stats course, the Discrete Math on Study.com (unfortunately not currently accepted by TESU), Calc 1 and Calc 2. I am redoing Calc 3 before taking Linear Algebra because I kind of tapped out by the end of A Levels - History was so much work and by core 4 of Maths I was over it.

Yes I read somewhere that each alevel is 3 credots but it's at the discretion of the university to accept them or not and I'm not even sure how to proceed, do I need to have them evaluated?
Yes I did maths and Biology unfortunately did not pass chemistry so I dont think it will count for anything.
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(02-13-2022, 06:33 AM)amlagood Wrote:
(02-12-2022, 01:36 PM)sarahmac Wrote:
(02-12-2022, 08:06 AM)amlagood Wrote: Im curious is it possible to do the capstone and cornerstone without having all 113 credits. Basically I have an opportunity to do a paid masters (sponsored by work) starting sep 2022 but I need to have a complete undergraduate degree before 20th of August. I know there's a semester starting early March at excelsior. Is it possible to transfer in about 90 credits, do the capstone and cornerstone by May and then do the left over credit in June and July. Also is there a deadline for when all the work should be completed by in order to be eligible for the summer graduation.

Noone else has mentioned it so I will: what A Levels did you take? A levels are accepted for college credit in the US because they are equivalent to the first year or so (why their degrees are four years and ours aren't). If you took A Level Maths and Further Maths, for example, you would at least get a couple math credits based on that. The content of A Level Maths is roughly equivalent to Calc 1, 2 possibly 3 and Stats or Discrete Math depending on what options you took. So even if you weren't awarded credit for all, testing out via Study.com, Straighterline etc would likely be a walk in the park if you remembered everything.

I did A Level Maths with Stat 1 and Decision 1, for example, and that easily covered a US Intro Stats course, the Discrete Math on Study.com (unfortunately not currently accepted by TESU), Calc 1 and Calc 2. I am redoing Calc 3 before taking Linear Algebra because I kind of tapped out by the end of A Levels - History was so much work and by core 4 of Maths I was over it.

Yes I read somewhere that each a level is 3 credits but it's at the discretion of the university to accept them or not and I'm not even sure how to proceed, do I need to have them evaluated?
Yes I did maths and Biology unfortunately did not pass chemistry so I dont think it will count for anything.

How many credits they are worth is based on the individual university. Penn State gives between 6 and 9, for example, and even Stanford gives you two different classes if you did Maths and a third if you did Further Maths too (again, 6-9 credits). A lot won't pre-specify if they will give credit for stats, discrete, mechanics 1 & 2 because it's down to the school which classes you took.

Your A Levels would need to be evaluated same as your degree to get direct credit for them, through an international evaluator. If you remember everything though, I just used my existing knowledge, did some past paper practice, and tested out. This works out fast and cheaply if you remember everything and is more expensive if you don't (Straighterline membership is 100 dollars a month, plus you pay to take an exam).

I filled out the associate's degree AOS in maths at TESU by testing out:

Calc 1 & 2 (Straighterline), Discrete Math and Geometry (Study.com), Stats and "College Algebra" (also known as GCSE Maths lol) (Sophia), and there's a couple of TECEPs that are math credits, as well as CSM Learn (transferred as Business Maths at TESU). 

While I had Sophia membership, I also did the other Gen Ed classes.

No matter what route you decided to go based on your prior degree stuff as your major, you could definitely add the associates in maths quite easily.
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What are A levels?
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(02-13-2022, 11:25 AM)ss20ts Wrote: What are A levels?

Quote:The A Level (Advanced Level) is a subject-based qualification conferred as part of the General Certificate of Education, as well as a school leaving qualification offered by the educational bodies in the United Kingdom and the educational authorities of British Crown dependencies to students completing secondary or pre-university education. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-Level

Quote:There’s a difference in intent, some difference in structure, but as things taken at the same age in two different countries go, they are quite similar in level. - What is the difference between AP and A levels? on Quora
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(02-13-2022, 11:17 AM)sarahmac Wrote:
(02-13-2022, 06:33 AM)amlagood Wrote:
(02-12-2022, 01:36 PM)sarahmac Wrote:
(02-12-2022, 08:06 AM)amlagood Wrote: Im curious is it possible to do the capstone and cornerstone without having all 113 credits. Basically I have an opportunity to do a paid masters (sponsored by work) starting sep 2022 but I need to have a complete undergraduate degree before 20th of August. I know there's a semester starting early March at excelsior. Is it possible to transfer in about 90 credits, do the capstone and cornerstone by May and then do the left over credit in June and July. Also is there a deadline for when all the work should be completed by in order to be eligible for the summer graduation.

Noone else has mentioned it so I will: what A Levels did you take? A levels are accepted for college credit in the US because they are equivalent to the first year or so (why their degrees are four years and ours aren't). If you took A Level Maths and Further Maths, for example, you would at least get a couple math credits based on that. The content of A Level Maths is roughly equivalent to Calc 1, 2 possibly 3 and Stats or Discrete Math depending on what options you took. So even if you weren't awarded credit for all, testing out via Study.com, Straighterline etc would likely be a walk in the park if you remembered everything.

I did A Level Maths with Stat 1 and Decision 1, for example, and that easily covered a US Intro Stats course, the Discrete Math on Study.com (unfortunately not currently accepted by TESU), Calc 1 and Calc 2. I am redoing Calc 3 before taking Linear Algebra because I kind of tapped out by the end of A Levels - History was so much work and by core 4 of Maths I was over it.

Yes I read somewhere that each a level is 3 credits but it's at the discretion of the university to accept them or not and I'm not even sure how to proceed, do I need to have them evaluated?
Yes I did maths and Biology unfortunately did not pass chemistry so I dont think it will count for anything.

How many credits they are worth is based on the individual university. Penn State gives between 6 and 9, for example, and even Stanford gives you two different classes if you did Maths and a third if you did Further Maths too (again, 6-9 credits). A lot won't pre-specify if they will give credit for stats, discrete, mechanics 1 & 2 because it's down to the school which classes you took.

Your A Levels would need to be evaluated same as your degree to get direct credit for them, through an international evaluator. If you remember everything though, I just used my existing knowledge, did some past paper practice, and tested out. This works out fast and cheaply if you remember everything and is more expensive if you don't (Straighterline membership is 100 dollars a month, plus you pay to take an exam).

I filled out the associate's degree AOS in maths at TESU by testing out:

Calc 1 & 2 (Straighterline), Discrete Math and Geometry (Study.com), Stats and "College Algebra" (also known as GCSE Maths lol) (Sophia), and there's a couple of TECEPs that are math credits, as well as CSM Learn (transferred as Business Maths at TESU). 

While I had Sophia membership, I also did the other Gen Ed classes.

No matter what route you decided to go based on your prior degree stuff as your major, you could definitely add the associates in maths quite easily.
Ya i had terrible experience with the previous credit evaluation so I won't be doing that again but yes I'll test out. I'm working my way through sophia and saylor. Please offer me suggestions on what you think can be done easily and quickly (I don't mind paying extra in order to graduate this summer) the requirement for the sponsored training masters is a STEM degree so maths at tesu, natural science at excelsior, even computer science ( I'm not good at it so I worry I might struggle doing an entire degree on this) I welcome all suggestions and tips 
Thanks guys
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I suggest a quick degree without a concentration such as the Excelsior BSLA or UMPI BLS would take the bulk of all your transfers if you take the bulk from Sophia.org & Saylor.org, you can take up to 113 credits using ACE/NCCRS at Excelsior and finish the Info Lit, Cornerstone/Capstone (7 credits) with them, at UMPI you will need to do 30 credits within two terms.
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#27
If you were to apply for September graduation, you could request a letter certifying your graduation date after the audit is completed (which will begin in the second week of July). That should be enough for your employer/graduate program: https://www.tesu.edu/current-students/gr...nformation

Have you already applied to TESU and gotten an evaluation?

(02-13-2022, 01:52 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: I suggest a quick degree without a concentration such as the Excelsior BSLA or UMPI BLS would take the bulk of all your transfers if you take the bulk from Sophia.org & Saylor.org, you can take up to 113 credits using ACE/NCCRS at Excelsior and finish the Info Lit, Cornerstone/Capstone (7 credits) with them, at UMPI you will need to do 30 credits within two terms.

I think you missed this part of their last post: "the requirement for the sponsored training masters is a STEM degree"
Ongoing: MLIS

June 2022, Thomas Edison State University (TESU): Second degree - BA in Computer Science + ASNSM in Mathematics + Cert. in CIS + Cert. in Operations Mgmt.
e-Packs: Computer Concepts; Industrial Psych.
Guided Study: Comp. Architecture
Online: Intro. to PLA; Database Mgmt.; Software Eng.; Data Structures; Liberal Arts Capstone; DSI-610 (Statistics.com)

May 2019, a residential, RA institution: BA in Political Science and Educational Studies
Relevant equivalencies: MAT-321; MAT-431; STA-315
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(02-13-2022, 01:52 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: I suggest a quick degree without a concentration such as the Excelsior BSLA or UMPI BLS would take the bulk of all your transfers if you take the bulk from Sophia.org & Saylor.org, you can take up to 113 credits using ACE/NCCRS at Excelsior and finish the Info Lit, Cornerstone/Capstone (7 credits) with them, at UMPI you will need to do 30 credits within two terms.
Is it possible to customise the Liberal degree by taking majority science and maths credits
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#29
Customizing a liberal studies degree doesn't make it a STEM degree. It's still liberal studies.
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#30
amlagood Wrote:Is it possible to customise the Liberal degree by taking majority science and maths credits

rachel83az Wrote:Customizing a liberal studies degree doesn't make it a STEM degree. It's still liberal studies.


Yes.  This ^^ - The best thing to do right now is decide which degree/school you're going to get your Bachelors from.  You should also provide us more info on this "Masters" degree as we're not familiar with which program and their requirements for admissions are.  

So, you may be able to get in with a BSLA or BALS NSM or a BLS MIS... it all depends on their requirements and what can "make up" for the missing piece.  You can take as many math or sciences as you wish as long as it applies to the degree, you'll still end up with a BSLA or Liberal Arts degree.

Here's an example actually two, of some people who have gone on from a NON science degree into an Engineering or Science program.

MrBossmanjr.  An associates in electronic engineering from Excelsior and TESU BALS no concentration, because of their experience and undergrad studies, he was able to finish a Boston University Masters in Software Development and now land a Georgia Tech Masters in Data Analytics...

Sanatone. An associates in Biology from TESU, an AAS, BSBA CIS and BA Social Science.  With upper level Biology courses, she landed a Masters in Biology, I think she changed from Biological Sciences to Forensic Biology - I don't remember.  This is another awesome example where a BA in that Major is not required.

As long as you hit the requirements from that US or UK degree admissions checklist, that's all you mainly need.  If it was me, I would try hard to get all the requirements, but if you're lacking something, bring that up on the interview and say hey, I'll take X to make up the courses, let me in with "conditional acceptance"!
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