Demographics of Gun Violence

[Duneranger]

Lol, the right is trying sooooooooo hard to blame trans people. First they said it was a trans shooter, then the shooter wrote trans ideology on the bullets, now they are saying he just lived with a trans roommate.

Continued deflection from the fact he doesnt fit the “leftist” narrative the right spent days trying to spin.

And the left is trying SOOOOOOOO hard to ignore every single fact about the case, the blatant disregard of the evidence to push a narrative is sad but unsurprising.

I don't care if he's trans or if his partner is trans. That's NOT the point

The point is to smash the gaslighting the left is trying to do by proving he's not one of them.

All evidence at THIS point shows he was a LEFTY edgelord who spent waaaay too much time on the internet and was radicalized to commit assassination. Whether his upbringing in a conservative Mormon home pushed him to be a turncoat, we don't know.

The fact you deny this despite family/friends' statements, a trans partner, Belle Ciao (famous Italian WW2 lefty song)  and anti-fascist on his casing etc etc is WILD. There is exactly ZERO evidence supporting him being right-wing. The only thing you linked was that his family (parents) were conservative. SHOCKER. Kids are not carbon copy believers of everything their parents believe; it's irrelevant.

(Since you seem not to understand internet sh*tposting, he has a furry reference on his casing referencing a trans furry meme from years ago, not a direct trans reference)

Come back when you actually have evidence, not just spouting nonsense.

[NotJoeBiden]

I gave you family quotes and showed how some friend quotes were redacted.

And sorry, I am not super familiar with your Furry trans subculture. You’ll have to enlighten more on it.

[Duneranger]

I gave you family quotes and showed how some friend quotes were redacted.

And sorry, I am not super familiar with your Furry trans subculture. You’ll have to enlighten more on it.

The rest of the quotes and statements from the family were NOT redacted, and they were clear and recent.

People like you will deny it despite insurmountable evidence. He could tattoo his motive on his head and you'd still find some excuse and cite motherjones afterward.

I am assuming you had no idea Bella Ciao was a "anti nazi" leftist song either...shocker. You don't know much about anything, I guess. You also rambled on about guns initially when Kirk was shot by a WW2 era rifle found easily in most countries....didn't fit your narrative though, so you dropped that lol

"Hey fascist! Catch!" wasn't enough for you either, apparently....unless lefties are fascists now?

[NotJoeBiden]

So being anti-Nazi or anti-fascism is now considered leftism?

[Duneranger]

So being anti-Nazi or anti-fascism is now considered leftism?

Virtue signaling your aversion to 24/7 and using it as a top 5 descriptor of anything you dislike? Umm yeah.  Especially, considering Kirk was widely called a fascist by those on the left...even those still justifying and celebrating his death. 

You are being disingenuous and playing dumb as per usual.

[NotJoeBiden]

Jonathan already addressed this. Please review his comments.

[Jonathan Whatley]

All evidence at THIS point shows he was a LEFTY edgelord who spent waaaay too much time on the internet and was radicalized to commit assassination. Whether his upbringing in a conservative Mormon home pushed him to be a turncoat, we don't know.

The fact you deny this despite family/friends' statements, a trans partner, Belle Ciao (famous Italian WW2 lefty song)  and anti-fascist on his casing etc etc is WILD.

I’ve seen one “friend” statement that he was leftist, the Guardian statement which was since redacted by the Guardian because the purported friend “could not accurately remember details of their relationship,” and which anyway dated to circa 2018, prior to the not redacted CNN friend statement that he was pro-Trump approaching the 2020 election. The CNN report does also have a recent work colleague saying Robinson “wasn’t too fond of Trump or Charlie (Kirk).”

I’ve seen one family statement discussing Tyler Robinson and a disagreement with Kirk. Disagreement with Kirk is different from being leftist. The family statement describes a family dinner. The original public source of that statement appears to be Governor Cox in the September 12 press conference announcing the arrest, at the 2:02 mark in this AP video, where Cox says:

Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.

It sounds from this account like the person who “stated Kirk was full of was full of hate and spreading hate” was not Tyler Robinson, but rather “another family member.”

Tyler Robinson provably did not vote in 2022 and 2024, and registered as unaffiliated.

Utah ballots in 2022 and 2024 had several options for a leftist, including write-in lines in the general election for President and in the elections for US Senate in both years. The 2022 Senate race was unusually closely contested between two terminally online candidates, @BasedMikeLee and @EvanMcMullin. McMullin since left X, but at the time he and Lee were full-time residents of the Twitter factions respectively opposing and supporting Trump. The 2024 election included an open seats for President and US Senate and a rare three-way race for Governor. The 2024 presidential ballot in Utah included lines for Green Party candidate Jill Stein, Party for Socialism and Liberation candidate Claudia De la Cruz, and high-profile independent leftist candidate Cornel West.

He repeatedly rejected voting for any Democratic candidate or for any further left option, even a write-in. He equally rejected voting for any right-wing option, even a write-in. He also rejected voting on the statewide ballot measures in each election.

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So being anti-Nazi or anti-fascism is now considered leftism?

Virtue signaling your aversion to 24/7 and using it as a top 5 descriptor of anything you dislike?

This

• does describe a type of person who exists,
  
• but does not describe public evidence at this time about the suspected killer.
  

[Charles Fout]

To each their own.

I will not participate in this discussion.

[LevelUP]

To each their own.

I will not participate in this discussion.

I hear you. You’re always welcome in the IDGAF+ club, where we prioritize fun over politics.

[Duneranger]

All evidence at THIS point shows he was a LEFTY edgelord who spent waaaay too much time on the internet and was radicalized to commit assassination. Whether his upbringing in a conservative Mormon home pushed him to be a turncoat, we don't know.

The fact you deny this despite family/friends' statements, a trans partner, Belle Ciao (famous Italian WW2 lefty song)  and anti-fascist on his casing etc etc is WILD.

I’ve seen one “friend” statement that he was leftist, the Guardian statement which was since redacted by the Guardian because the purported friend “could not accurately remember details of their relationship,” and which anyway dated to circa 2018, prior to the not redacted CNN friend statement that he was pro-Trump approaching the 2020 election. The CNN report does also have a recent work colleague saying Robinson “wasn’t too fond of Trump or Charlie (Kirk).”

I’ve seen one family statement discussing Tyler Robinson and a disagreement with Kirk. Disagreement with Kirk is different from being leftist. The family statement describes a family dinner. The original public source of that statement appears to be Governor Cox in the September 12 press conference announcing the arrest, at the 2:02 mark in this AP video, where Cox says:

Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10th, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.

It sounds from this account like the person who “stated Kirk was full of was full of hate and spreading hate” was not Tyler Robinson, but rather “another family member.”

Tyler Robinson provably did not vote in 2022 and 2024, and registered as unaffiliated.

Utah ballots in 2022 and 2024 had several options for a leftist, including write-in lines in the general election for President and in the elections for US Senate in both years. The 2022 Senate race was unusually closely contested between two terminally online candidates, @BasedMikeLee and @EvanMcMullin. McMullin since left X, but at the time he and Lee were full-time residents of the Twitter factions respectively opposing and supporting Trump. The 2024 election included an open seats for President and US Senate and a rare three-way race for Governor. The 2024 presidential ballot in Utah included lines for Green Party candidate Jill Stein, Party for Socialism and Liberation candidate Claudia De la Cruz, and high-profile independent leftist candidate Cornel West.

He repeatedly rejected voting for any Democratic candidate or for any further left option, even a write-in. He equally rejected voting for any right-wing option, even a write-in. He also rejected voting on the statewide ballot measures in each election.

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So being anti-Nazi or anti-fascism is now considered leftism?

Virtue signaling your aversion to 24/7 and using it as a top 5 descriptor of anything you dislike?

This

• does describe a type of person who exists,
  
• but does not describe public evidence at this time about the suspected killer.
  

Did you read the article? The family explicitly states that it was he who was discussing it with the family, saying that Charlie is spreading hate. This is referenced in mulitple articles not just the governor's comments. The family also stated he had RECENTLY become hyper political (2022 and 2024 elections don't hold as much weight), has a transgender partner and or roommate, used explicitly leftist verbiage on his rifle casings etc etc. You are conflating different eye witness accounts then writing them all off. MULTIPLE people have made statements

Let's not dance around it. Call a spade a spade. What are the OBVIOUS reasons behind killing a prominent right-wing figure in 2025? It wasn't because he didn't like Charlie's hairstyle.

OR are you going to argue that he was soooooo far right that he killed Charlie because he wasn't hardcore enough? Because, given the evidence, that would be asinine.

ALSO, what happened to him being a "Groyper" that seems to have disappeared eh?