ENEB Ambassadors?

[ecdw94]

@ecdw94, they're not that strict on requirements, many institutions have a conditional acceptance, which means the student is working towards the degree and showing they can complete the course work.  Here's an example, say your partner has a bunch of the cheap or freebie credits on a Credly transcript, has some experience in the field, and working towards a Bachelors, it all gets looked at.  As long as they're working towards the Bachelors or towards professional development - you should be good, you can complete the double ENEB and inform them you're trying to complete the degree by 'reverse transfer' them into the Bachelors at some point if you wanted.

You did not get my point. My fiancé neither is working towards a Bachelors degree, nor does she work professionally, but would want to do the master's degree. She has a lot of time right now, mainly when kids go to sleep etc. 
And if she happens to "make up" her professional experience, how much is that validated by ENEB? I am still sure that she can finish the master's degree, so that is definitely not an issue, but starting a bachelor's degree now, to gain entrance to the masters program at ENEB is not a good due to time sensitive manner of the situation.

You understand how bizarre your post sounds, right? Even for a school like ENEB. A master's degree is supposed to build off of a BA +/- professional experience. 

Why not just do a BA in business from somewhere like UMPI and go from there? I did a "fun" BA at UMPI WHILE being in a doctoral program (currently) in 1 term. It's not that difficult, and if she has a lot of time on her hands it shouldn't matter.

Because its not about learning and applying the MBA masters degree at some job. Its for the immigration points. My fiance wants to study computer science in a year or two, but not now, but we need the points now. The thing is, because she does not have a BS Degree, we are losing points for the immigration, literally. I am the main bread winner and there is no big reason she "has" to work. She wants to look after the kids right now, but getting a lot of points deducted from the immigration profile just because my fiance has no degree is non sense.   UMPI is expensive, we do not have $10.000 for this right now.  ENEB cost $500 max, and it only takes barely a year instead of the 3-4 years you need for a BS degree. And she can not do the "all nighters" that I have done to finish multiple Sophia courses in one weekend and so on. But learning learning some MBA stuff is realistic and I you not necessarily need work experience for that.

[bjcheung77]

Interesting, then if you're in the USA, follow my steps in post #10 to get the Pierpont BOG AAS, ladder that to the ENEB MBA & Masters of choice, if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS. This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways. Review the last post #10 again...

[RJ77]

Interesting, then if you're in the USA, follow my steps in post #10 to get the Pierpont BOG AAS, ladder that to the ENEB MBA & Masters of choice, if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS.  This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways.  Review the last post #10 again...

I believe the OP is in Canada, since he mentioned something about Canadian equivalency, and the US doesn't use a point system for immigration. As for the OP, since your partner doesn't meet any of the other admission requirements for ENEB, your best bet is to contact them directly. It does list that option in their Admission section of their website:

To access any of our Master’s programs, applicants must meet the following requirements:

• Students holding a degree certificate.
  
  
• Students currently studying for a graduate degree or equivalent higher education tittle.
  
  
• Foreign students having an equivalent degree documented.
  
  
• Professionals that already have a recognized position in the field.
  
  
• In the unlikely event that you do not meet any of the above requirements, please contact the school and the admissions department will assess your case individually.
  

[bjcheung77]

ecdw94 and wife is trying to get into Canada, that's what I recall with the previous threads... There are so many ways to get the extra points, as I mentioned, these requirements are used for conditional acceptance, working on 'anything' towards a degree from the very first course to the very last class for an Associates will start the process and get the ball rolling... With all these time constraints, my solution would be what they're looking at.

[rachel83az]

 UMPI is expensive, we do not have $10.000 for this right now.  ENEB cost $500 max, and it only takes barely a year instead of the 3-4 years you need for a BS degree. And she can not do the "all nighters" that I have done to finish multiple Sophia courses in one weekend and so on. But learning learning some MBA stuff is realistic and I you not necessarily need work experience for that.

I think you may have misread something, somewhere? UMPI isn't anywhere nearly that expensive. It's $1500 for a 2-month session and most students are able to finish in 2-4 sessions. Yes, that's still $3000-6000, but it's almost certainly going to work better than trying to "trick" immigration with an ENEB degree.

[ecdw94]

 UMPI is expensive, we do not have $10.000 for this right now.  ENEB cost $500 max, and it only takes barely a year instead of the 3-4 years you need for a BS degree. And she can not do the "all nighters" that I have done to finish multiple Sophia courses in one weekend and so on. But learning learning some MBA stuff is realistic and I you not necessarily need work experience for that.

I think you may have misread something, somewhere? UMPI isn't anywhere nearly that expensive. It's $1500 for a 2-month session and most students are able to finish in 2-4 sessions. Yes, that's still $3000-6000, but it's almost certainly going to work better than trying to "trick" immigration with an ENEB degree.

What does it have anything to do with "trick" immigration? The only thing you are tricking is, gaining access to a masters degree, and finishing it via honest means. And I am sure my partner in crime can own the MBA degree. She is very smart.

$3000-$6000 is a LOT of money. And because we are not from USA, we can not get any kind of grands, stipends and co.

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Interesting, then if you're in the USA, follow my steps in post #10 to get the Pierpont BOG AAS, ladder that to the ENEB MBA & Masters of choice, if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS.  This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways.  Review the last post #10 again...

We are not from USA. I have yet to review your post again. So far I did not find a solution for my partners problem (since Pierpont BOG AAS does not apply to my partner(USA))  As to myself, I want once again thank you about you guiding me into ENEB in another thread. I am almost done with my UoPeople BS CS.

[bjcheung77]

@ecdw94, you quoted my answer (skip the AAS). I repeat by copy/paste... "if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS. This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways."

For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them.

For those reading, ENEB evaluations are going to differ from FCE to FCE, it's like currency exchange.  Here's an example, way back when I did my SEA trip, $1USD was $1.60 Singapore Dollar at one of the currency exchanges, I walked next door and got $1.67 by asking for a better deal.  Nowadays, it is just $1.33 Singapore Dollar... FCE landscapes change!

There are solutions for everything, it depends on suitability, without knowing most of your details, it's hard to have concrete answers.  I would take some time to review options, here are threads that may interest you, I've discussed about immigration in these recent threads, take a look at the 'linked' threads too!  Good luck, do your research and decide your options...

Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid398644
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid408611
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...WES-Canada

[RJ77]

 UMPI is expensive, we do not have $10.000 for this right now.  ENEB cost $500 max, and it only takes barely a year instead of the 3-4 years you need for a BS degree. And she can not do the "all nighters" that I have done to finish multiple Sophia courses in one weekend and so on. But learning learning some MBA stuff is realistic and I you not necessarily need work experience for that.

I think you may have misread something, somewhere? UMPI isn't anywhere nearly that expensive. It's $1500 for a 2-month session and most students are able to finish in 2-4 sessions. Yes, that's still $3000-6000, but it's almost certainly going to work better than trying to "trick" immigration with an ENEB degree.

What does it have anything to do with "trick" immigration? The only thing you are tricking is, gaining access to a masters degree, and finishing it via honest means. And I am sure my partner in crime can own the MBA degree. She isn't dumb.

$3000-$6000 is a LOT of money. And because we are not from USA, we can not get any kind of grands, stipends and co.

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Interesting, then if you're in the USA, follow my steps in post #10 to get the Pierpont BOG AAS, ladder that to the ENEB MBA & Masters of choice, if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS.  This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways.  Review the last post #10 again...

We are not from USA. I have yet to review your post again. So far I did not find a solution for my partners problem (since Pierpont BOG AAS does not apply to my partner(USA))  As to myself, I want once again thank you about you guiding me into ENEB in another thread. I am almost done with my UoPeople BS CS.

First thing you should do is find out if Canadian Immigration will even accept/recognize the ENEB degree. Apparently WES Canada no longer accepts it. Contact an official source at the immigration department to find out for sure though. Info on message boards will likely be conflicting or possibly out of date. If you find out for sure that it isn't accepted, then you can save the $300 and some time.

[ecdw94]

@ecdw94, you quoted my answer (skip the AAS). I repeat by copy/paste... "if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS. This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways."

For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them.

For those reading, ENEB evaluations are going to differ from FCE to FCE, it's like currency exchange.  Here's an example, way back when I did my SEA trip, $1USD was $1.60 Singapore Dollar at one of the currency exchanges, I walked next door and got $1.67 by asking for a better deal.  Nowadays, it is just $1.33 Singapore Dollar... FCE landscapes change!

There are solutions for everything, it depends on suitability, without knowing most of your details, it's hard to have concrete answers.  I would take some time to review options, here are threads that may interest you, I've discussed about immigration in these recent threads, take a look at the 'linked' threads too!  Good luck, do your research and decide your options...

Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid398644
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid408611
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...WES-Canada

THank you so much for trying to help me bjchueng. I really Appreciate it. I'll analyse your post once I am at home but one thing I still do not get is what you mean with the "when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways" . Evaluate via NACES member what? I mean, which degree? Are you talking about my spouse? We are not from the UK too btw.

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 UMPI is expensive, we do not have $10.000 for this right now.  ENEB cost $500 max, and it only takes barely a year instead of the 3-4 years you need for a BS degree. And she can not do the "all nighters" that I have done to finish multiple Sophia courses in one weekend and so on. But learning learning some MBA stuff is realistic and I you not necessarily need work experience for that.

I think you may have misread something, somewhere? UMPI isn't anywhere nearly that expensive. It's $1500 for a 2-month session and most students are able to finish in 2-4 sessions. Yes, that's still $3000-6000, but it's almost certainly going to work better than trying to "trick" immigration with an ENEB degree.

What does it have anything to do with "trick" immigration? The only thing you are tricking is, gaining access to a masters degree, and finishing it via honest means. And I am sure my partner in crime can own the MBA degree. She isn't dumb.

$3000-$6000 is a LOT of money. And because we are not from USA, we can not get any kind of grands, stipends and co.

---

Interesting, then if you're in the USA, follow my steps in post #10 to get the Pierpont BOG AAS, ladder that to the ENEB MBA & Masters of choice, if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS.  This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways.  Review the last post #10 again...

We are not from USA. I have yet to review your post again. So far I did not find a solution for my partners problem (since Pierpont BOG AAS does not apply to my partner(USA))  As to myself, I want once again thank you about you guiding me into ENEB in another thread. I am almost done with my UoPeople BS CS.

First thing you should do is find out if Canadian Immigration will even accept/recognize the ENEB degree. Apparently WES Canada no longer accepts it. Contact an official source at the immigration department to find out for sure though. Info on message boards will likely be conflicting or possibly out of date. If you find out for sure that it isn't accepted, then you can save the $300 and some time.

Oh mi god.... This would ruin our plans and make our plans 6x more expensive......

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@ecdw94, you quoted my answer (skip the AAS). I repeat by copy/paste... "if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS. This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways."

For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them.

For those reading, ENEB evaluations are going to differ from FCE to FCE, it's like currency exchange.  Here's an example, way back when I did my SEA trip, $1USD was $1.60 Singapore Dollar at one of the currency exchanges, I walked next door and got $1.67 by asking for a better deal.  Nowadays, it is just $1.33 Singapore Dollar... FCE landscapes change!

There are solutions for everything, it depends on suitability, without knowing most of your details, it's hard to have concrete answers.  I would take some time to review options, here are threads that may interest you, I've discussed about immigration in these recent threads, take a look at the 'linked' threads too!  Good luck, do your research and decide your options...

Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid398644
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid408611
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...WES-Canada

I am home and I am analysing your post right now, 

I am aware of different credential evaluators evaluate differently. But I am not sure what you want to tell me?  Canada for immigrational purposes only accepts a set amount of organizations, of which WES Is part of and WES does the most favorable decisions so far. I even know someone, who had their MS degree evaluated by ICAS as a BS degree, while WES did it as a MS degree.

In addition, I just wanted to add something about the last Link you have posted where rachel83az says that titulo propio is not going to work because ENEB counts as unaccredied master's degree. But the linked entry to https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB says otherwise. 
And if you take these kind of badges (https://badges.wes.org/Evidence?i=205038...82&type=ca)  from other evaluations, it does not say unaccredited masters degree, am I missing something ?  

As to the Canada immigration topic, I was specifically referring to the posts on this and the sister forum. From your contributions as well as Colemans contributions. As well as the miraheze links I have posted.

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@ecdw94, you quoted my answer (skip the AAS). I repeat by copy/paste... "if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS. This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways."

For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them.

For those reading, ENEB evaluations are going to differ from FCE to FCE, it's like currency exchange.  Here's an example, way back when I did my SEA trip, $1USD was $1.60 Singapore Dollar at one of the currency exchanges, I walked next door and got $1.67 by asking for a better deal.  Nowadays, it is just $1.33 Singapore Dollar... FCE landscapes change!

There are solutions for everything, it depends on suitability, without knowing most of your details, it's hard to have concrete answers.  I would take some time to review options, here are threads that may interest you, I've discussed about immigration in these recent threads, take a look at the 'linked' threads too!  Good luck, do your research and decide your options...

Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid398644
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid408611
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...WES-Canada

I found you again talking about that "UK Graduate certificate thing" in here -> https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid361018 Hmm

[ecdw94]

@ecdw94, you quoted my answer (skip the AAS). I repeat by copy/paste... "if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS. This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways."

For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them.

For those reading, E....andscapes change!

There are solutions for..tions...

Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid398644
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid408611
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...WES-Canada

THank you so much for trying to help me bjchueng. I really Appreciate it. I'll analyse your post once I am at home but one thing I still do not get is what you mean with the "when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways" . Evaluate via NACES member what? I mean, which degree? Are you talking about my spouse? We are not from the UK too btw.

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 UMPI is expensive, we do not have $10.000 for this right now.  ENEB cost $500 max, and it only takes barely a year instead of the 3-4 years you need for a BS degree. And she can not do the "all nighters" that I have done to finish multiple Sophia courses in one weekend and so on. But learning learning some MBA stuff is realistic and I you not necessarily need work experience for that.

I think you may have misread something, somewhere? UMPI isn't anywhere nearly that expensive. It's $1500 for a 2-month session and most students are able to finish in 2-4 sessions. Yes, that's still $3000-6000, but it's almost certainly going to work better than trying to "trick" immigration with an ENEB degree.

What does it have anything to do with "trick" immigration? The only thing you are tricking is, gaining access to a masters degree, and finishing it via honest means. And I am sure my partner in crime can own the MBA degree. She isn't dumb.

$3000-$6000 is a LOT of money. And because we are not from USA, we can not get any kind of grands, stipends and co.

---

Interesting, then if you're in the USA, follow my steps in post #10 to get the Pierpont BOG AAS, ladder that to the ENEB MBA & Masters of choice, if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS.  This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways.  Review the last post #10 again...

We are not from USA. I have yet to review your post again. So far I did not find a solution for my partners problem (since Pierpont BOG AAS does not apply to my partner(USA))  As to myself, I want once again thank you about you guiding me into ENEB in another thread. I am almost done with my UoPeople BS CS.

First thing you should do is find out if Canadian Immigration will even accept/recognize the ENEB degree. Apparently WES Canada no longer accepts it. Contact an official source at the immigration department to find out for sure though. Info on message boards will likely be conflicting or possibly out of date. If you find out for sure that it isn't accepted, then you can save the $300 and some time.

Oh mi god.... This would ruin our plans and make our plans 6x more expensive......

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@ecdw94, you quoted my answer (skip the AAS). I repeat by copy/paste... "if you're not in the USA, skip the Pierpont BOG AAS. This way, when you use a NACES member for evaluation, you get a Bachelors & Grad certificate (which is 1 year after the Bachelors) to max the points, it's the same number of points for a 1 year Masters/MBA anyways."

For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them.

For those reading, ENEB evaluations are going to differ from FCE to FCE, it's like currency exchange.  Here's an example, way back when I did my SEA trip, $1USD was $1.60 Singapore Dollar at one of the currency exchanges, I walked next door and got $1.67 by asking for a better deal.  Nowadays, it is just $1.33 Singapore Dollar... FCE landscapes change!

There are solutions for everything, it depends on suitability, without knowing most of your details, it's hard to have concrete answers.  I would take some time to review options, here are threads that may interest you, I've discussed about immigration in these recent threads, take a look at the 'linked' threads too!  Good luck, do your research and decide your options...

Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid398644
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid408611
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...WES-Canada

I am home and I am analysing your post right now, 

I am aware of different credential evaluators evaluate differently. But I am not sure what you want to tell me?  Canada for immigrational purposes only accepts a set amount of organizations, of which WES Is part of and WES does the most favorable decisions so far. I even know someone, who had their MS degree evaluated by ICAS as a BS degree, while WES did it as a MS degree.

In addition, I just wanted to add something about the last Link you have posted where rachel83az says that titulo propio is not going to work because ENEB counts as unaccredied master's degree. But the linked entry to https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB says otherwise. 
And if you take these kind of badges (https://badges.wes.org/Evidence?i=205038...82&type=ca)  from other evaluations, it does not say unaccredited masters degree, am I missing something ?  

As to the Canada immigration topic, I was specifically referring to the posts on this and the sister forum. From your contributions as well as Colemans contributions. As well as the miraheze links I have posted.

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@ecdw94, you quoted my answer (skip the AAS). I repeat by copy/p.............................. 1 year Masters/MBA anyways."

For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them.

For tho.......adays, it is just $1.33 Singapore Dollar... FCE landscapes change!

There are solutions for everything, it depends on suitability, without knowing most of your details, it's hard to have concrete answers.  I would take some time to review options, here are threads that may interest you, I've discussed about immigration in these recent threads, take a look at the 'linked' threads too!  Good luck, do your research and decide your options...

Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid398644
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid408611
Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...WES-Canada

I found you again talking about that "UK Graduate certificate thing" in here -> https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid361018 Hmm

Okay, now I understand what you meant with : "For the most part, you're not 'tricking' anyone either for entry requirements (again, not strict conditional acceptance), and you're just getting a favorable evaluation from one of the evaluation agencies too.  Your other option is to take the Level 5, 6 & 7 UK diploma and having them evaluated from WES directly, I've written about this as well, you'll get a favorable evaluation from them."

I just found out about OTHM.  Thank you so much. 
Now, all I have to find out is, if ENEB is still recognized by WES as an accredited masters or not, because everyone is giving out different kind of information, while I see all these WES badges and this information: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB

Besides that, the only difference is that I would have to do an english test for OTHM while not for ENEB

Now I just have to find out what to do with my spouse.

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Wait, OTHM Level 7 cert alone does not equate a masters degree in canada. You have to "top it up"? That makes it more expensive than I thought. I think I am misunderstanding everything and spamming this forum.. https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid360724